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Sashadroogie
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| Hey?! Where'd Parrot's post go? Makes me look like I'm talking to myself... |
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scot47
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| Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The KGB used their death ray on him. I never liked him anyway. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Awww! I did. I'll have to purge a few of the ranks. |
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Perilla
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| Shroob wrote: |
| From my understanding, most EFL work in the U.K. is at universities, where wages are typically £30-40 a year. This is not a wage to be sniffed at by any means, and one could live quite comfortably on this. |
I agree with the general drift of your post Shroob but not sure about the above. I'd say the best EFL jobs in the UK are indeed at the universities, but the lucky incumbents hang on their jobs like grim death and it's very difficult to get a foot in the door. Most likely you'd get temporary or pre-sessional uni work, which might pay reasonably well for short-term contracts but the powers that be will keep you on this merry-go-round forever if they can, with any prospect of a 'permanent' post (if such things exist any more) dwindling by the day.
I suspect that numerically there are far more jobs in the UK's legion of private language schools. Of course, these jobs pay a pittance and are best avoided if possible.
Unless you're a glutton for punishment the best bet is to take Parrot's advice and head east, returning to Europe later when you've managed to stash some loot. |
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PC Parrot
Joined: 11 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| No, there aren't any that pay that well. You could only save about 1/3 to 1/2 that. But that is still the highest I know in Europe. And then there is the fact that you have not sold your soul to live in a compound... Personally, I'd prefer to sacrifice some of the savings than part of my lifespan. |
Live on a compound?
Not everywhere in the Gulf is Saudi. In fact, many people here seem to enjoy the lifestyle .. Not I, I hasten to add. I like the profound stimulation that history gives to our mental faculties. There is none of that here.
Are there any positives to working here apart from the cash?
Yes. 2 to 3 months holidays, when you can get out of the place. Over the next 6 weeks, we will be in Istanbul, London, other parts of the UK, and in the medieval villages of Lot and Lot et Garonne. Last December we spent a fortnight visiting medieval towns in Umbria. And we don't have to do it like backpackers.
For a decade, we travelled around S.E.Asia, Nepal, India, Kenya, Tanzania, Malawi, Egypt. And for the last five years, since we've been able to afford it, it's been Europe. If people think travelling around Europe is a waste of holiday, they should try living outside it for 17 years.
Another positive: if you are lucky, you might live in a villa with a peacful and secluded garden where you can truly shut the outside world out. There is something very satisfying to be found in watching the garden you planted grow. And of course, with the all year round flowering here, you can make the place look pretty attractive - certainly a pleasant spot for eating out, for which the weather is suitable and reliable for 9 months of the year.
If you like eating at 5 star hotels, you can do plenty of that too. You can do it for half of the price that the tourists pay if you join the hotel's reward scheme. Some hotels also have great offers from May to Aug .. to give you the relief of a weekend away.
There are also outdoor pursuits. Several of my colleagues trek and rock-climb in the mountains nearby. I used to use the mountains for picnics until the noisy families started turning up. Nowadays, I limit myself to camping in the sand dunes of the desert - which is an activity I'm sure many people would like to try without having to endure one of those ridiculous desert tours.
And don't forget the strengthening of character a person experiences when they discipline themselves to do something they dislike in order to achieve something they do. Think of it as undergoing an extensive and exhausting period of treatment to ensure a chance of life long well being.
I'm paying now for the living in the moment I did in my youth. But I also hope that I'm paying for the living in the moment I will be doing for the rest of my life, which begins in 2 to 3 year's time. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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True, not all those jobs involve a compound. But, and I am probably wrong here, I always associated the jobs which allow you to save your figure of 100,000 with those that involve the most restrictions, which seem to be mainly in Saudi Arabia.
Anyway, why sell your soul to mammon when you can live in paradise on earth now, eh?
Come to Russia!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omE-dOcMf5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fpUBy-UxgI |
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PC Parrot
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There's good cash to be had at universities in both the UAE and Qatar.
But far more interesting is the link to communist art. It certainly has an appeal. I remember visiting a park on the outskirts of Budapest that hosts the communist statues collected from the streets after the fall. To add to the atmosphere, the place was covered in snow, cloaked in mist, and barren of any signs of life.
It is one of the aspects so deeply lacking here - other than some 'really exciting' crap that is just a copy of a western work with a little touch added, like a camel, which turns it into a cultural interpretation of genius. Pah!
I would say regarding the money, if you are living in the West and you don't have any, it's easy to be so mentally preoccupied that you don't even see the architecture around you. Ask Raskolnikov. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Raskolnikov ? Does he post here too ? |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| What is happening to PC Parrot's posts, eh? They keep getting the axe! |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| Hmmm. Have you guys got some sort of selective vision difficulties? I see the Parrot Posts...or perhaps I'm delusional; summer semester does that to some of us. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| Spiral, you can see the ones that are there. I'm referring to the ones that were there, but are not there now... |
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sicklyman
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| are not there now... |
if you can't see them, how do you know they're not there? |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Because I could see the them before, but cannot now. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I too, can see those invisible posts. Am I suffering from "folie a deux" in tandem with Sasha ? |
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Sashadroogie
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I dunno about all you guys, but I'm not insane. Only those wrecking elements in league with counter-revolutionary agents suffer from sluggish schizophrenia. I suspect Scot may be a secret Trotskyite, so I'm not too sure about him...
Anyway, I can see just fine. Parrot wrote about Raskolnikov's double committing crimes, and had also mentioned saving over a hundred grand a year in the Gulf region. Yet mysteriously those posts were gone by the time they were replied to.
I think it is a Piggie plot to discredit the Glorious Motherland, grr hiss boo! Probably backed by MI6, in a sad bid to make the bankrupt UK look more attractive to TEFL teachers. |
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