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Ramen



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:43 am    Post subject: New job offer question-teaching math Reply with quote

A friend of mine just been offer a job teaching math at boarding middle school @ 18,000 CYN per month. She's currently working at a PS in Korea.

She gets one month off during summer and another month off during winter vacation. Free apartment, travel money, and other usual perks. Is 18,000 CYN a fair salary teaching 20 classes?

Also, would she be able to get Z-Visa in Korea ?
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's it at?
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zactherat



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The job sounds like a skilled, full-time gig. Quite different to the part-time uni posts at 5000 a month. Pretty good, I'd say.

I have never heard of anyone getting a z visa in Korea, and even if there are previous examples, that doesn't mean the precedent will be firmly set for 'your friend'. Much more likely to have to return to home country.
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Ramen



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
Where's it at?


It's in shanghai. It's kind of odd that they're offering her 18k while most china job offers are around 10k. Is it due to its location?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

18K is high for an FT gig - even Shangers, but low for an international school.
Is she certificated in her home country. If yes and has home country experience, then she should look at real internationals which have expat kids and scions of wealthy locals.
They teach a Western curriculum - international bacc. or similar.
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Ramen



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, she has BS in math and currently working on her teacher's cert via online program with uni in Florida. The school said that they have both foreign and local students attending. They're using American curriculum. Only experience she has is two years teaching English in Korea with a TESOL cert.

So she has to apply for her visa in the states? That would only give her 5 days to get her visa since her job in Korea ends on August 25 and the new Job starts on September 1. Is that even possible in 5 days?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's kind of odd that they're offering her 18k while most china job offers are around 10k. Is it due to its location?


When teaching for a overseas program and not teaching English, this is a normal starting salary. I wanted to retire this year from an Engineering program but was talked into 10 hours per week, and my university just cut my pay in half. Still it is more than your average Oral English class pays.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The school said that they have both foreign and local students attending. They're using American curriculum.


Sounds like a similar set up as my school. A purely Chinese-run affair with some sort of "international" department folded in. While the ratio with foreign student vs. local student may be higher than mine (due to the fact it's in Shanghai), my guess is a larger percentage will be mainland Chinese. If this is the case, then 18,000 is quite good. Will she get apartment allowance, airfare, etc.? If she has to pay for her own apartment and utilities, I imagine it won't sound so nice afterward. Also, is the 18K the gross pay or net pay? All these little odds and ends can whittle the money away quite handily.
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Halapo



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai's requirements for teachers are higher than the rest of the country, in my experience. They school wont be able to cut any corners to get her in (the Gov offices follow the rules) , so the basics she must have are a 4 year BA, 2 years teaching experience (the national rules there) and for Shanghai they really push for the teaching certificate.

As for the 18000RMB a month? Well, if they cover all or most of the living expenses, it will be pretty good.

IMO rent here for your own 1 bedroom appt is about 4000-6000RMB with around another 1000-1500 per month for water/gas/phone-mobile/internet ( keeping in mind in China you tend to pay these in 3month, 6month or one year deposits , so a lot up-front).

Travel shouldn't be to bad, in most parts of the City the subway covers things, taxis would be 14-30RMb a ride. However a lot of the new building and therefor schools are outside the main subway area. This can lead to taking an east-west line, switch to a north-south line and then back to another east west line. Think of the subway as a big spider web, but the lines only run inwards(ie "strands"), with only one ring or "loop" line.

Lastly food... I cook at home for two each week, 3 meals a day. Our food bill is about 400-800RMB a week, and most of our food is local food ( ie cheaper, imported meats and such are normally twice the local cost). So I would guess most people would need around 1500-2000RMB for food a month...

So as a rough example, a one bedroom with all the utilities, travel and food costs is about 7000-10000RMB per month. Granted, that is two people ( so the food bill could be cut in half ).
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