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hochhasd
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 Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:30 am Post subject: Re: teaching. |
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| muffintop wrote: |
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400 for a 50 minute class? I find that hard to believe.
Privates pay various rates depending on where you live. I even think 200 is high.
To make thing fair I would charge the same price. What you can do is give one hour for free or at half price if some one brings you another student.
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Maybe you need to reread what I wrote, or perhaps I was not clear. Those classes are not 400 a head.
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| In Qingdao I charge no less than 400 for a 50 minute class and a minimum of an hour and a half per week. That is for a maximum of 6 students. Every additional student is 65/hour. That's for classes with 7-10 year old kids... |
It's roughly 65/head if there are 6 students. To add... if 6 students want a class it's 400. If 3 want a class it's also 400. Each additional student above 6 pays 65/hour. I am not sure how my wife explains this to the parents and I'm not sure how she collects the money...but I'm always paid what I should be...I think.
EDIT: Wife just told me I am an idiot. It's 360/hour for up to 6 kids and 60/hour for additional students. This is why she handles the money.... |
You must be superman and a kind person to charge only 360 hour for 6 kids. I taught primary school (3 grade) and the class came to a total of 30 students. I was so drained after each class. I don't think anyone should be money hungry, but 100 to 150 is more than fair |
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muffintop
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| Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| 30 kids would be a nightmare. 6 kids for me is the sweet spot. The class requires no prep...it all comes from the books I use which I've taught many times. These are the easiest classes I have. They are around 7-10 years old |
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hochhasd
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| Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| muffintop wrote: |
| 30 kids would be a nightmare. 6 kids for me is the sweet spot. The class requires no prep...it all comes from the books I use which I've taught many times. These are the easiest classes I have. They are around 7-10 years old |
I guess if you have used the book before then it would be easier. I figure with a 6 year old I could start with letters , numbers and even sesame street. |
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LarssonCrew
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| Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Gotta agree, I charge about 150, and ask for ten hours up front.
I honestly find it's easier to get a block of cash than per class.
In 10 weeks students normally turn up for about 6 out of ten classes. At least I've got the cash up front.
Teaching some bosses in high positions is a nightmare because they're constantly busy, whereas the kid of the teachers in a school my friend worksi n constantly show up, without fail, and if they're busy will reschedule for the middle of the week.
Muffintop, two questions...or three:
Do you give a demo to new potential kids? If so, do you have any paper to give them to advertise/discuss what you do?
Where do you hold these classes? Your house?a classroom?
How do you advertise? Online, in the community?
And finally,[4 questions!] do you ask for ten classes up front or not? |
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muffintop
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| Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
Muffintop, two questions...or three:
Do you give a demo to new potential kids? If so, do you have any paper to give them to advertise/discuss what you do?
Where do you hold these classes? Your house?a classroom?
How do you advertise? Online, in the community?
And finally,[4 questions!] do you ask for ten classes up front or not? |
1. No free lessons but they are not obligated to pay for more than one class initially.
2. Most are in my house, sometimes I travel. If I travel, their home must be set up for a class. Must have a whiteboard and desks or a table large enough for all students.
3. I don't advertise. My wife finds people looking for an English teacher....one class can turn into many as they tell friends. Others just found us. My wife does advertise but not for classes with me. She is Chinese and teaches English from the books they use in school. However, sometimes parents inquire about her classes and we roll them into mine instead. Also, if a kid has really basic English, I send them to class with my wife until they are ready for my classes.
4. They pay a month in advance. My wife keeps track of all of that....that bit is the biggest pain in the ass because of the way we structure our fees.
If charging 150 a head for kids that age works for you guys, go for it. It didn't work well for me here. It's difficult to justify such a heavy increase over what the schools would charge (40-60/hour is common). I was never able to generate enough students at that rate. If you guys can...that's awesome. Usually I was stuck with one on one/two classes and I hate those. It's too much like work. This is one of the reasons I charge the way I do. Each class is 360/hour at a minimum. If only one student wants a class...360. If 6 want a class....360. My pay does not go up but the class gets easier the more students there are. Checking homework can eat a good 20 minutes easily and it opens up the class to many time wasting activities. Also, many parents are far more relaxed instead of breathing down my neck since the hourly rate is reasonable and competitive with local schools.
I have tried many different hourly rates and fee structures. This one works best for me by far. YMMV.I am sure I could make more per hour if I wanted, I did in the past...but this way I am earning far more per month and it's easier work. |
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hochhasd
Joined: 03 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| muffintop wrote: |
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Muffintop, two questions...or three:
Do you give a demo to new potential kids? If so, do you have any paper to give them to advertise/discuss what you do?
Where do you hold these classes? Your house?a classroom?
How do you advertise? Online, in the community?
And finally,[4 questions!] do you ask for ten classes up front or not? |
1. No free lessons but they are not obligated to pay for more than one class initially.
2. Most are in my house, sometimes I travel. If I travel, their home must be set up for a class. Must have a whiteboard and desks or a table large enough for all students.
3. I don't advertise. My wife finds people looking for an English teacher....one class can turn into many as they tell friends. Others just found us. My wife does advertise but not for classes with me. She is Chinese and teaches English from the books they use in school. However, sometimes parents inquire about her classes and we roll them into mine instead. Also, if a kid has really basic English, I send them to class with my wife until they are ready for my classes.
4. They pay a month in advance. My wife keeps track of all of that....that bit is the biggest pain in the ass because of the way we structure our fees.
If charging 150 a head for kids that age works for you guys, go for it. It didn't work well for me here. It's difficult to justify such a heavy increase over what the schools would charge (40-60/hour is common). I was never able to generate enough students at that rate. If you guys can...that's awesome. Usually I was stuck with one on one/two classes and I hate those. It's too much like work. This is one of the reasons I charge the way I do. Each class is 360/hour at a minimum. If only one student wants a class...360. If 6 want a class....360. My pay does not go up but the class gets easier the more students there are. Checking homework can eat a good 20 minutes easily and it opens up the class to many time wasting activities. Also, many parents are far more relaxed instead of breathing down my neck since the hourly rate is reasonable and competitive with local schools.
I have tried many different hourly rates and fee structures. This one works best for me by far. YMMV.I am sure I could make more per hour if I wanted, I did in the past...but this way I am earning far more per month and it's easier work. |
While your system works for you I am really not interested in taking on a group of kids and I am not looking for the tutoring. I am doing it as a favor for my FAO (granted favors don't come free) and if here daughter comes her or there to a session I will just end it. I am in a small city in the Northeast section of Jiangsu Province. There are learning centers all over,but I do not know what they charge and if she wants to bring her daughter to one of them because my price is too high so be it,but I at least offered.
You also mentioned HW (I realized you have used this before ) as I have to bring the materials, if she wants the daughter to have HW that will be extra. |
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U99A
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Location: P.R.C
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| Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| Charge as much as you can get away with! |
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