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[charlesmarlow]

[ExpatLuke]

We're all adults here. I doubt anyone would claim to work at a school just to get some sort of internet forums street credibility... Instead of challenging someone on their claims of where they work, you should probably just accept their answer. Even if their answer contradicts your opinion of how things are.

[Oh My God]

[Mr. Kalgukshi]

Let's get back on topic and avoid taking shots at each other.

If not, the next step will be more than a warning posted on the thread.

[charlesmarlow]

For clarification purposes only, OMG, I never said that you worked for ILA that was someone else, I also never stated that you worked for the Sofitel
either, I said that was another person. Please re-read my post.

It's very clear from the comments on this thread and from EFL teachers who have experience teaching in Vietnam that professional EFL organisations do not use demo lessons for recruitment purposes. They also have a clear understanding of the recruitment and selection process.
Furthermore, most of them have a teacher development program that includes observations by experienced and qualified staff followed by one-to-one coaching sessions with an action plan. Peer observations are also used with seminars and workshops to develop their teachers. All or the majority of these organisations are run by foreigners.

It's also interesting that not a single post stated the name of a school that requires the demo for initial recruitment purposes and is considered a reputable EFL school

The cowboy outfits which are usually owned and managed by Vietnamese do not have teacher development programs, and use the demo lesson for only one purpose- I met a teacher last night who was forced to do a demo lesson for the office staff of a school 4 people and he said that the reason was to "Viet me down on my hourly rate."

Refuse and resist the demo lesson, it's simple, have a degree, CELTA or equivalent, and experience, and it's likely that you will never have to do one. If you are unqualified etc, I guess you get to work with the Vietnamese who are also unqualified etc.

[1st Sgt Welsh]