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Sashadroogie

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sixthchild
Joined: 18 Apr 2012 Posts: 298 Location: East of Eden
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Hi
I fail to see how you arrive at that notion, especially as it clarifies up a point that seems too prevelant on the other side of the pond. The other thing of course is it brings into focus a very happy event, or is that nappy event. Still my congratulations to the happy couple, don't you want to say the same? |
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Sashadroogie

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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:13 am Post subject: |
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It is nonsense for many ideologically sound reasons.
Firstly, few people in the US care one jot about the proper title for the monarch. The article barely manages to stifle its titters at how uneducated those people must be.
The next reason is that the BBC keeps informing British people about what the US thinks of them. Why? All very lap-dog like.
The angry Scots reference manages to ignore the prospect of Scottish secession from the United Kingdom.
The notion that the Irish in Northern Ireland are British is extremely contentious.
And as for congratulating the happy couple, why of course. I am always ready to offer toasts of good health on the occasion of the birth of any new citizen, just like the birth of my working-class neighbours' daughter. I didn't see any gooey drivel plastered all over the BBC about that happy event though. Are we somehow saying that an aristocrat's sprog is somehow more important? Tsk tsk. They'll all end their days tending the People's Gardens. |
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Sashadroogie

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scot47

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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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The unfortunate residents of these offshore islands have been subjected to days of drivel about the infant Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (now known in some circles as "Windsor")
Other German princelings got their marching orders in November 1918. Why not these ones ?
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Sashadroogie

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:21 am Post subject: |
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It is shocking to think that in this day and age such feudalistic concepts as this form of monarchy are still with us. And seemingly embraced as something worthwhile culturally. Especially in the US, apparently!!
Grrr boo hiss! Bring on the People's liberation. Here's looking at a United Soviet of Great Britain, urraaa! Hic! |
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Sashadroogie

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sixthchild
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, yes, everyone who feels as though life has passed them by and they have so little and others have a lot more will identify with that speaker, Sadly, the royal family is an easy target for all those doom and gloom types who believe the royals are an expensive luxury and want a republic totally killing off at a stroke what brings millions of tourists and much needed income. Don't know if you are a brit or otherwise,but if you are hand in your passport before you travel to that better republic state. Royals are newsworthy, unlike a lot of other so-called celebrities that pop up in the tabliods everyday. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Dear sixthchild,
"Royals are newsworthy, unlike a lot of other so-called celebrities that pop up in the tabliods everyday."
Not disputing your statement, but I do wonder why they are newsworthy.
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John |
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Sashadroogie

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I would dispute that statement. Are they really newsworthy? Why? What do they contribute to the news that other vacuous celebs don't? |
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it'snotmyfault
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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They didn't go out of their way to make themselves newsworthy. They were born into it.
Unlike the Z-list celebs who spend their time tipping the paparazzi off about which bar they are going to be falling out of at 3am, the royals have no choice.
A lot of countries that don't have any history or traditions seem genuinely interested and a little envious of the British royal family. We shouldn't give them such a hard time. |
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scot47

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Golly ! A royalist ! How passe ! |
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it'snotmyfault
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:16 am Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
Golly ! A royalist ! How passe ! |
I've heard The Queen speaks very highly of you. |
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Sashadroogie

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:30 am Post subject: |
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They 'were born into it' due to historical accident. A long tradition of oppression and inequality that explicitly states that not all citizens are equal. There even seems to be doubt as to whether people are even citizens at all or mere 'subjects'. Slave-owners were 'born into it' too, as were many slaves. But this is no moral justification for a feudalistic social structure.
By the way, which countries are these that do not have their own histories and traditions? Don't know any myself. In any case, most outside 'interest' that is not whipped up by media saturation is more along the lines of curiosity that such an archaic and irrelevant institution is still being taken seriously by an otherwise rational people. Imagine a forty-five year old who still believes in Santa Clause. Same thing as the monarchy.
Of course, there is all the pomp and circumstance, which is crowd-pleasing. But then again, the Vatican does that so, so much better. |
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scot47

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: |
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"Countries without history" means "Countries of whose history I am ignorant" |
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