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Raniken
Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: University Jobs |
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Hi,
Hoping to get a little advice about job prospects and future potential from some of the more experienced university teachers that frequent these forums.
I have an MA in Applied Linguistics and I am about to begin the 2nd year of a PhD program in Education with a concentration in Applied Linguistics. I am finding the PhD program to be a poor fit for my interests, and I am strongly considering dropping out. I taught in Japan (through ECC) about 7 years ago, and really enjoyed the experience. I know some Japanese, but it is all at a very basic level. Since moving back from Japan I have accumulated 1 year of teaching ESL at College, 8 months of teaching academic writing to ESL students at university, and 2 years work as a writing tutor at another university (native and non-native speakers of English). I have one publication at this point, but should have another 3-4 articles coming out this year – 2 in commerce and 2 in applied linguistics.
Is it worth pursuing my PhD, or would be current experience level allow me to get/maintain good positions in Japan?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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timothypfox
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 492
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Look at job postings to see how your qualifications stack up... It's adjunct city over here or terminal 3 years contracts galore. I imagine a PhD could only help... I've heard those that make it into permanent positions are very good networkers. |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: University Jobs |
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Raniken wrote: |
I have an MA in Applied Linguistics and I am about to begin the 2nd year of a PhD program in Education with a concentration in Applied Linguistics. I am finding the PhD program to be a poor fit for my interests, and I am strongly considering dropping out. I taught in Japan (through ECC) about 7 years ago, and really enjoyed the experience. I know some Japanese, but it is all at a very basic level. Since moving back from Japan I have accumulated 1 year of teaching ESL at College, 8 months of teaching academic writing to ESL students at university, and 2 years work as a writing tutor at another university (native and non-native speakers of English). I have one publication at this point, but should have another 3-4 articles coming out this year – 2 in commerce and 2 in applied linguistics.
Is it worth pursuing my PhD, or would be current experience level allow me to get/maintain good positions in Japan?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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The MA will be enough for a lot of jobs, but not all. The PhD will help. You should be checking the job listings on JREC-IN and JACET if you aren't already. The job ads list the qualifications necessary. More and more places are wanting PhDs. I'm not sure if they are getting them or not.
The 1 publication is good, but you'll most likely need a few more. The 3-4 this coming year should put you in a good position in that regard.
Most places want people who are able to communicate reasonably well in Japanese -- not necessarily to conduct class in Japanese, but enough to be functional in meetings and admin-related situations.
Regarding your question about "maintaining good positions in Japan", I think the bigger obstacle than your qualifications will be the general trend in university EFL positions in Japan. Most positions are fixed-term (e.g., 2-year contract, renewable once -- things like that). Once that period is up, you're out, and you need to find a new job. There are some continuing faculty positions, but the vast majority are fixed-term. Not an ideal situation long-term, but over time you might be able to find a permanent position (though there is more competition for those, and thus the PhD might help).
Edit: Tim Fox mentioned adjuncts. Yes, more and more universities are opting to cover classes by hiring a couple adjuncts rather than a full-time lecturer/professor, as it saves them money. I've heard of people teaching more classes per week at a single university as an adjunct than full-time foreign lecturers teach at the same university. That said, adjunct jobs won't get you a work visa, at least to start with.
Also, as Tim mentioned, a lot of hiring is done through connections. The jobs might be posted, but it often comes down to who you know. Not to say that all are like that, or even most. And, there's really no way to tell from looking at ads. |
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Solar Strength
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:20 am Post subject: Re: University Jobs |
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rtm wrote: |
Most places want people who are able to communicate reasonably well in Japanese -- not necessarily to conduct class in Japanese, but enough to be functional in meetings and admin-related situations. |
I was talking to a university lecturer in Tokyo recently about this and he believes that high Japanese language proficiency is even more important than holding a doctorate in order to land a university TEFL job in Japan. I guess the Japanese highly value those gaijin that can speak Japanese well. Also, many interviews are actually conducted in Japanese or half Japanese and half English.
I've had a look at the main websites where Japanese universities post job announcements on and none of the contract TEFL positions require a Ph.D and almost all of the tenured or permanent hire positions also do not require a doctorate. So, I do not believe a Ph.D would help you.
Instead, 2 things that put you in a good position to be hired are: (1) High level of Japanese language proficiency and (2) Publications and presentations. A Ph.D in Linguistics / Education would not have a chance against someone with only an relevant M.A. but good Japanese ability and a list of TESOL publications and conference presentations.
Also, the Ph.D is not as valued in Japan like it is in the west. Most Japanese professors in language departments do not hold doctorates and so themselves do not put much value on hiring doctorates. What they want are people who can speak Japanese and can function in a Japanese work environment.
This is what what a typical job posting looks like.
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Requirements: M.A., 2-3 years university teaching experience, 2-3 publications, presentations.
Contract: 3 years, *possible* 1 renewal for 2 more years (not guaranteed).
Some Japanese language ability to function in a Japanese work environment for admin. duties, meetings, etc.
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So, 3 years max. with nothing more than 5 years is the new standard for gaijin TEFL position these days.
Of course it's up to you and a personal decision that you have to make but, based on what I've been told and have read in job announcements, a doctoral degree is not required for 99% of the contract and regular hire TEFL positions at Japanese universities.
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Solar Strength
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Oh, and ideally - be under 35 years of age!
40 is too old in Japan, not only to be a TEFL teacher, but to get a university teaching job.
An American teacher I know left Japan to go back to the U.S. and earn a M.A. TESOL degree. He returned a few years ago at 41 and has not been able to land a full time university teaching position. He's been told that he's too old.
He's humping it as a part-timer running around Kanto several days a week - Tokyo - Chiba - Kanagawa - Saitama.
Ageism is a factor. Some Japanese university job postings that I've seen recently explicit state: Under 40 or Under 35, even. |
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steki47
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 1029 Location: BFE Inaka
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Solar Strength wrote: |
Oh, and ideally - be under 35 years of age!
40 is too old in Japan, not only to be a TEFL teacher, but to get a university teaching job.
An American teacher I know left Japan to go back to the U.S. and earn a M.A. TESOL degree. He returned a few years ago at 41 and has not been able to land a full time university teaching position. He's been told that he's too old.
He's humping it as a part-timer running around Kanto several days a week - Tokyo - Chiba - Kanagawa - Saitama.
Ageism is a factor. Some Japanese university job postings that I've seen recently explicit state: Under 40 or Under 35, even. |
This worries me. I am 41, finishing up my MS Edu and will be looking at uni jobs. |
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qwertyu2
Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 93
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Since more and more applicants for the relatively few full-time positions available have a Ph.D. and good Japanese, why would universities settle for less? |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Solar Strength wrote: |
Ageism is a factor. Some Japanese university job postings that I've seen recently explicit state: Under 40 or Under 35, even. |
It's not so much "ageism" as it is that salaries at Japanese universities are determined not only on qualifications and job type, but also on age. So, if you are over the cutoff (e.g., 35), they automatically have to pay you more. Of course, if they can get someone with the same qualifications to do EFL teaching and don't have to pay them so much, they'll do that. So, not really a matter of wanting someone younger, but rather wanting someone cheaper. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:15 am Post subject: |
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I think it depends where you work. Age can be a factor, but where I work, it is not.
My boss is over 60, and I work with a Canadian who is over 50.
Every teacher starts on the same salary, regardless of age or experience.
Some schools are getting really cheap, so if they can cut costs, they will.
A Ph.D looks good but would you want to work at a university with a limited contract if you have a doctorate? I know a Finnish woman who works at a university in Tokyo. The Ph.D certainly helps, as her Japanese is not so good.
At this point I would say either proficiency in Japanese or a Ph.D will get you a golden ticket.
Otherwise, I don`t think it is worth it anymore. I may return to the states next year. |
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qwertyu2
Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 93
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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mitsui wrote: |
At this point I would say either proficiency in Japanese or a Ph.D will get you a golden ticket. |
I agree regarding the fixed-term contracts. I also agree either Japanese or a Ph.D. worked in the past and that's why we still see full-time employees with only one of the two. However, for the few full-time tenure track positions that come open these days, universities seem to be catching on that they can expect both. |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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mitsui wrote: |
Every teacher starts on the same salary, regardless of age or experience. |
Is it a public or private university? My experience was with a public (national) university, and age was part of salary calculations there (among other things). I'm really not sure about other places.
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would you want to work at a university with a limited contract if you have a doctorate? |
And, to be honest, a doctorate isn't even necessary/useful for teaching the types of classes that most universities ask foreign teachers to teach. In Japan, it's mostly useful for getting the job. That's a lot of time and effort to get a piece of paper. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I work at a private university.
My former boss has a Ph.D.
He tends to show up to classes late.
Basically, as long as he does his "research" or writes, it doesn`t matter.
I think I prefer high school, because there the focus is on teaching.
Where I work it seems that research trumps teaching, but other schools are like this too. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:54 am Post subject: |
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So I would say that you have to know your limitations.
I don`t want a doctorate. I am at the 3kyu level of the Japanese test.
At best I can get a limited contract. If you are fine with that kind of life, ok.
To get a limited contract, one needs a MA and publications.
This trumps Japanese ability, at most schools.
I found a school in Tokyo that demanded at least 5 publications and 5 presentations. It just seems that schools are always raising the bar.
With the declining birthrate, there will be fewer students and too many teachers.
Some people just teach part-time at a few places. I heard talk about some schools having limited contracts for part-time teachers too.
At this point, you have to either fight and join a union or get out. |
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Solar Strength
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:45 am Post subject: |
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There's a good discussion on Gaijin Pot forum right now about university teaching. Glenski and Ken44 have posted some interesting comments about what is in store for university EFL teachers in Japan over the next 2 or 3 years.
Where is Glenski, by the way? I thought he'd be all over this thread.
Finally, is there a difference in terms of what the expectations are, Mitsui, at national vs. private universities? You mentioned your previous supervisor had a doctorate but kept the admin. out of his hair as long as he published papers.
Isn't the work culture more like a government bureaucracy at national universities as opposed to a business-like culture at private universities? |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I assume Glen is just busy.
I don't know about national universities.
Frankly things don't look good, and I doubt things will get better. |
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