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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm actually looking into a combined program to take out here in San Francisco with i-to-i. A 120 hour program.

All the pros and cons from the other posters are helpful...as is the reviews of the i-to-i program:http://www.teflcoursereview.com/i-to-i-tefl/#comments
Avoid i-to-i! Their supposed "teaching practice" isn't with REAL ESL/EFL students but with fellow teacher trainees. If you're in the SF area, check out some of the University of California programs.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chancellor wrote:
tesolmaster wrote:
I'm actually looking into a combined program to take out here in San Francisco with i-to-i. A 120 hour program.

All the pros and cons from the other posters are helpful...as is the reviews of the i-to-i program:http://www.teflcoursereview.com/i-to-i-tefl/#comments
Avoid i-to-i! Their supposed "teaching practice" isn't with REAL ESL/EFL students but with fellow teacher trainees. If you're in the SF area, check out some of the University of California programs.


Thanks, Chancellor.

I'm a former student, on a budget, supporting himself, so I'm trying to look for budget TESOL/TEFL programs.

Yes, the UC programs seem to be conprehensive and more reliable than independent or online 'courses'...but even those can maybe take months to complete.

I guess the question bugging is: Would I be able to teach without certification, but get experience (and certification) while working? (Especially if some schools want to train you to work according to their particular style or methods?)

I'm interested in HK, Japan, Taiwan, China and S. Korea (in that order). However, with S. Korea, there is the waiting for the criminal background check/apostille period.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tesolmaster wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
tesolmaster wrote:
I'm actually looking into a combined program to take out here in San Francisco with i-to-i. A 120 hour program.

All the pros and cons from the other posters are helpful...as is the reviews of the i-to-i program:http://www.teflcoursereview.com/i-to-i-tefl/#comments
Avoid i-to-i! Their supposed "teaching practice" isn't with REAL ESL/EFL students but with fellow teacher trainees. If you're in the SF area, check out some of the University of California programs.


Thanks, Chancellor.

I'm a former student, on a budget, supporting himself, so I'm trying to look for budget TESOL/TEFL programs.

Yes, the UC programs seem to be conprehensive and more reliable than independent or online 'courses'...but even those can maybe take months to complete.
Yes, but it would be well worth your while to take the time. Or you can just do a four-week entry level TESOL/TESL/TEFL course like CELTA, Trinity, SIT, or one of the others - as long as it's at least 120 hours in length and has at least (according to some here) a six-hour observed/assessed teaching practicum with real ESL/EFL students.

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I guess the question bugging is: Would I be able to teach without certification, but get experience (and certification) while working? (Especially if some schools want to train you to work according to their particular style or methods?)

I'm interested in HK, Japan, Taiwan, China and S. Korea (in that order). However, with S. Korea, there is the waiting for the criminal background check/apostille period.
I've heard that such jobs exist, but they generally don't pay well. Besides, would you want to learn a foreign language from someone who has no training in language instruction?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chancellor wrote:
tesolmaster wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
tesolmaster wrote:
I'm actually looking into a combined program to take out here in San Francisco with i-to-i. A 120 hour program.

All the pros and cons from the other posters are helpful...as is the reviews of the i-to-i program:http://www.teflcoursereview.com/i-to-i-tefl/#comments
Avoid i-to-i! Their supposed "teaching practice" isn't with REAL ESL/EFL students but with fellow teacher trainees. If you're in the SF area, check out some of the University of California programs.


Thanks, Chancellor.

I'm a former student, on a budget, supporting himself, so I'm trying to look for budget TESOL/TEFL programs.

Yes, the UC programs seem to be conprehensive and more reliable than independent or online 'courses'...but even those can maybe take months to complete.
Yes, but it would be well worth your while to take the time. Or you can just do a four-week entry level TESOL/TESL/TEFL course like CELTA, Trinity, SIT, or one of the others - as long as it's at least 120 hours in length and has at least (according to some here) a six-hour observed/assessed teaching practicum with real ESL/EFL students.

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I guess the question bugging is: Would I be able to teach without certification, but get experience (and certification) while working? (Especially if some schools want to train you to work according to their particular style or methods?)

I'm interested in HK, Japan, Taiwan, China and S. Korea (in that order). However, with S. Korea, there is the waiting for the criminal background check/apostille period.
I've heard that such jobs exist, but they generally don't pay well. Besides, would you want to learn a foreign language from someone who has no training in language instruction?


And this is why this site has served me well so far. Smile

Thanks for the info, Chancellor.Wink

I definitely agree that I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with someone with no teaching experience 'teaching' a foreign language to me. Of course, I would like to be fully (or trained enough) for when I get in front of the classroom. With that said, money is still an issue. I understand that HESS (for either Taiwan, China, or Korea) trains you with a TEFL (if one is accepted in the program)....and I have been looking at AEON & ECC(for Japan) and WalaWala (for China) - I don't know for sure if AEON, ECC, and WalaWala train you for a time before they 'let you go.'
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