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[rsanders777]

I applied to take the TEFL at AVSE (Australia-Vietnam School of English) I would like to know if it is a reputable organization. They guarantee job placement on completion. I was accepted and now they want $550 in 7 days. I am supposed to pay it by bank transfer or Western Union. The rest of the payment ($995) is to be made when I get there. Please me know anything you know about this school. Thank you

[deadlift]

ILA and Apollo, which are two of the more reputable schools, charge around $1650 for the CELTA. If I were in your shoes I'd go with them, simply because a CELTA will have greater recognition.

Also, AVSE is in Go Vap district, a good hour or more from down town.

[VietCanada]

An on line TEFL is only about $300. Why on Earth would you spend $1500+ ? If they are guaranteeing a job then they are guaranteeing you'll pass? Seriously how is that more legitimate than a $300 on line Tefl cert.?

Have you researched the cost at places in countries that don't require a cert. to teach legally? That's pretty much every other EFL destination in the world.

IMHO some schools in this country make more money selling this crap then they make off the VN students.


https://www.google.com.vn/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=LEGITIMATE&oq=LEGITIMATE&gs_l=hp.3..0l4.1589.3969.0.5543.10.8.0.2.2.0.401.2703.3-7j1.8.0....0...1c.1.21.psy-ab.VhJz9yuYt5A&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.49478099,d.eWU&fp=a03956f548817826&biw=1727&bih=909

Getting a certification to teach English grammar requires some prerequisites perhaps? Guaranteed a job! No applicant turned down! Only $1650+flight+food+++, ROTFLMFAO

[bobpen]

[ExpatLuke]

I've seen several places that offer the CELTA use the tag-line of guaranteeing employment after the course is over. It doubt it's a scam. Just sounds like a marketing gimmick.

The person who suggested that an online TEFL cert is just as good as a CELTA is sadly misinformed. Even for working in Vietnam, you're going to need at least a CELTA to get work at the more reputable schools, unless you have great connections. Sure you can find work easily enough here with just the online certificate, but it's going to be at places like AMA, Apollo, etc. A CELTA is internationally recognized and is universally considered the minimum requirement to work at any decent school.

[Anh Dep]

AVSE is owned and run by an Australian man Peter Goudge, he offers a Tesol course. Many things have been said on here before and other forums about AVSE, most of it was very damning. On here the thread was deleted as it got out of control. If I were you I would be looking at ILA or Apollo, at least they are reputable.The other thing is Mr Goudge is an former politician and he has all the spin that goes with it.

[VietCanada]

[Mushroom Druid]

[Ramen]

In my humble opinion. In vietnam, all EFL teaching certications are nothing more than money making scams. Anyone with half a brain can teach at vietnamese language mills. The difference is whether you have the experience or not.

[mark_in_saigon]

[spycatcher reincarnated]

As I have said before, it is very difficult to make any serious money running a CELTA and most organizations that run them would almost certainly lose money doing so, if they took all the real costs in to consideration.

I believe costs for running CELTAs in Vietnam are slightly higher than running them in native English speaking countries.

Organizations usually run them for the following reasons:

Credibility- in native English speaking countries
Teacher recruitment- in non-native English speaking countries

They are certainly no cash cow.

I do not know about the financial realities of running other certificates.

[Ramen]

[vabeckele]

[deadlift]

How is it a scam?

Strikes me as smart recruiting. In essence it's a four-week long interview with several observed lessons.

[Ramen]