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PAULH
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Well if you had cared to read my post carefully I made no mention of what I could sell my house for as I have no intention of selling it. The reference to the cost of the house compared to the value of the land was in reference to the idea that you get what you pay for. Nothing more. |
talk about dissembling and moving the goalposts. You could talk about value for money and the money you spent on the house was money well spent. Just because you spent a million yen on building a house does not mean it will remain at that value. I might also add (and this is generalising here) the average Joe salariman is not going to be as fastidious as you when buying and building a house. Other factors outside your control may affect the value of your property. You buy a condo from a developer and a year later the agent is selling the same apartments for 1/2 what you paid for yours, and you still have a mortgage. A big developer builds a fourteen story apartment and blocks out your sun and view. these things affect the desirability and value of your property. If you want to sink a half a million dollars into a property which gets no sun, has the view taken away, or suddenly the doors dont shut properly be my guest.
what I was simply saying is that in general Japanese houses are poorly constructed and ventilated compared to western houses dont hold their value and devalue quickly that they often are torn down after 20 years. If you have an architect designed house in a good area it will hold its value, but that is the exception rather than the rule.
FWIW my father was an architect for 40 odd years in New Zealand, we lived in a house he designed, saw the work he did. and I know about the quality of western architecture compared to Japan. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not an architect or builder, but the last time I checked, Cdns don't build houses with corrugated iron and fiberglass. When was the last time you saw a 50 yr old house in Japan that looked livable. Houses in Japan look worn and old a few years after they're built. What about insulation? That would be a novel concept, it is certainly cold enough here to warrant it. |
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buffy
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| I live in a house that was built in the Taisho era. Very liveable, albeit very traditional. I think the 'modern' houses built after the war don't last as long as the ones built in the traditional manner. If I ever have a house built here it would be in that way, but I hate to think of the costs involved. |
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David W
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| I take issue with this statement. My house is extremely well built and designed to last. It is worth significantly more than the land on which it sits. |
I would say this would mean resale value not what you payed for it!
If not, cool! |
Whoops  , yeah I see how you could have read that into it. It was only finished in December so no thoughts of selling. Because of the consideration, care and expense that went into my house I'm confident it will hold its value if we do ever decide to sell. |
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David W
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:01 am Post subject: |
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[quote="PAULH"]
| David W wrote: |
| Mike L. wrote: |
Well if you had cared to read my post carefully I made no mention of what I could sell my house for as I have no intention of selling it. The reference to the cost of the house compared to the value of the land was in reference to the idea that you get what you pay for. Nothing more. |
talk about dissembling and moving the goalposts. You could talk about value for money and the money you spent on the house was money well spent. Just because you spent a million yen on building a house does not mean it will remain at that value. I might also add (and this is generalising here) the average Joe salariman is not going to be as fastidious as you when buying and building a house. Other factors outside your control may affect the value of your property. You buy a condo from a developer and a year later the agent is selling the same apartments for 1/2 what you paid for yours, and you still have a mortgage. A big developer builds a fourteen story apartment and blocks out your sun and view. these things affect the desirability and value of your property. If you want to sink a half a million dollars into a property which gets no sun, has the view taken away, or suddenly the doors dont shut properly be my guest.
what I was simply saying is that in general Japanese houses are poorly constructed and ventilated compared to western houses dont hold their value and devalue quickly that they often are torn down after 20 years. If you have an architect designed house in a good area it will hold its value, but that is the exception rather than the rule.
FWIW my father was an architect for 40 odd years in New Zealand, we lived in a house he designed, saw the work he did. and I know about the quality of western architecture compared to Japan. |
My house was architect designed, quality built in a nice area. Again my point is that you get what you pay for. I'm sure they build some cr*p houses in New Zealand too. If you do your homework you can get something decent. As simple as that.
FWIW my father is a carpenter, we lived in a house he built, I saw the work he did. He's seen my house and declared it top notch. That's good enough for me. |
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