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Miajiayou



Joined: 30 Apr 2011
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Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I insist on English names. That would be my first goal in the class, to give everyone an English name.

I can remember Chinese names. I can manage some pretty decent tones, too. But, using Chinese names in an English class is just... weird. I use a Chinese name in my Chinese class. I used to use a French name in my French class. That is just how immersion language courses work.

Otherwise, ugh. I feel your pain.
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teachingld2004



Joined: 17 Feb 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:20 pm    Post subject: my new classes Reply with quote

Last term I had 2 Rambo's, and one Bruce Lee. Not Bruce, but Bruce Lee. In Korea I had a girl named Piglet, but I refused to call her that and called her by her Korean name. (and by the way, Korean names are easier to pronounce).

Chinese names are difficult or me to pronounce, and I tell them that when they deal with Foreigners English names are easier.

I have also said that when I was in Spanish class we had Spanish names When I was in Hebrew class we had Hebrew names. That is just the way it is done. We take a name in the language we study. I tell them that they never have to use it when they are not in class, but in class it is a rule.

And no way am I going to allow P U S S Y.
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
Posts: 4724
Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
hotel management majors chose names today.

most were nice, standard names (they will eventually be
working with fur'ners), although many chose names they
were unable to pronounce.

one boy chose lee. fine, but his last name is li.
"hi, my name is LiLi." okay.....

another boy wants to be elvis, yet never heard of the king.
i'll play a youtube clip before listening class. suppose it'll
be okay, assuming he works as a bellhop and gets to
wear a sequin jumpsuit.

one girl chose echo. sounds more like a japanese anime
character. the bunnymen were japanese, right?


Where are you teaching chou?
Not QHMC by any chance?
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Javelin of Radiance



Joined: 01 Jul 2009
Posts: 1187
Location: The West

PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miajiayou wrote:
I insist on English names. That would be my first goal in the class, to give everyone an English name.

I can remember Chinese names. I can manage some pretty decent tones, too. But, using Chinese names in an English class is just... weird. I use a Chinese name in my Chinese class. I used to use a French name in my French class. That is just how immersion language courses work.

Unless the majority of your education (math, science, history and so on) was done entirely in French then you weren't in a French immersion course or program, just as most Chinese students aren't in English immersion because all of their education, including their English, has been taught in their native language. Even most real immersion programs are only partial immersion because they only teach 50-80% of class content in the second language. Unless you're employed at a true international school, what most of us provide here in China is nothing more than an "enriched content" English lesson where there is (hopefully) little use of L1. I don't use a Chinese name when I meet with my Chinese class because it has no bearing on class content or my learning ability, which is really all that matters. But if it works for you Very Happy
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the FT doesn't speak any L1, does that make his/her class immersion?
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the FT doesn't speak any L1, does that make his/her class immersion?


Yes.

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my first goal in the class, to give everyone an English name.


Same here (except I don't give them a name unless they ask; usually they already have one). First class of every term right after I tell them my name. "You know my name, now I want to know your names."
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
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If the FT doesn't speak any L1, does that make his/her class immersion?


Yes.

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my first goal in the class, to give everyone an English name.


Same here (except I don't give them a name unless they ask; usually they already have one). First class of every term right after I tell them my name. "You know my name, now I want to know your names."


If your FT class is immersion then it is OK to insist on an English name.
Word of warning:
This is unlikely to happen with freshers in Semester 1, but later on watch for students who have changed their English name from the one recorded on the school computer.
It caught me out and since then I've recorded the unique student ID number on my record. Late at night when uploading your marks, you DO NOT NEED to be wondering if the 'Tessa' you have in your class is the 'Margaret' on the school system.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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changed their English name from the one recorded on the school computer


Oh, yeah, I've had that happen. I was recording grades at the end of the term and one student's name wasn't on there. I had to use the process of elimination (did the rest of the class and the one left over was her!).

Also, students may want to change their English name during the term; I usually allow it twice, but after that....(one gal was coming up to me EVERY WEEK wanting a new name).
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boomhauer20055



Joined: 09 Feb 2012
Posts: 30

PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kev7161 wrote:
Why not just learn their family names and call them "Miss Tang" or "Mr. Zheng" (or whatever)?


This works great for me. I also take their picture the first day, standing next to their name on the board. I'm not a big fan of using English names.
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