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What do you do to get a new job?

 
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Teacher in Rome



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:54 pm    Post subject: What do you do to get a new job? Reply with quote

Apart from getting together a decent CV/resume and references, how important is it to you to stand out from the crowd with other evidence of your employability as a teacher? For example, I'm thinking of:

- a LinkedIn profile
- easily documented activity on other social media sites, plus plenty of "social proof" - being easily found online with evidence of some level of professional kudos
- your own website / blog etc with your thoughts, examples of lesson plans, material etc
- being published in journals / self-published via ebooks etc
- membership of professional groups and associations

Would be interesting to compare what people think is necessary or useful in a job search - even by level of post or geographical region.
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Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a Party member of good standing was all that was necessary for me. : )
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the jobs I've had for the past 6 years have come to me through professional contacts, BUT I still think it's important to have a professional presence online, as most/many potential employers will check these days. When I'm on hiring committees, I do - and I know many others who also do at least a cursory search on potential new hires.

So, I check yes for
LinkedIn
some reasonable level of social proof (nice wording, by the way!) of a professional presence in the field
publications appear in LinkedIn in my case, as do lists of professional groups and associations

website/blog with my stuff on it seems to me unnecessary - that's basically giving away my work, which I do on an individual basis, but I think no need to go for wholesale give-away to all and sundry.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anglophone with a pulse and TESL-related degree is good enough here, but LinkedIn is increasingly popular!
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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website/blog with my stuff on it seems to me unnecessary - that's basically giving away my work, which I do on an individual basis, but I think no need to go for wholesale give-away to all and sundry.


I'm always interested in how much people think they're "giving away". A few indicators in how you think / approach different teaching situations is surely fairly safe? You're not giving away your expertise, as such.

The same thing, surely, with websites. There are so many that offer material and exercises, that a few examples is not going to jeopardise you - in fact, should show your versatility?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only work in institutions where we tailor our materials directly for very specific groups of students. It's not of general use or interest, so in my case not probably very useful to create a website and post it. For teachers in more general situations, could be.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teacher in Rome wrote:
I'm always interested in how much people think they're "giving away". A few indicators in how you think / approach different teaching situations is surely fairly safe? You're not giving away your expertise, as such.

The same thing, surely, with websites. There are so many that offer material and exercises, that a few examples is not going to jeopardise you - in fact, should show your versatility?

I agree with Spiral; it depends on what it is you want to highlight. For instance, I wrote a 15-page curriculum proposal for an ESP course for the college I was working at. I've also created extensive learning modules/lesson plans based on instructional systems design models. I certainly don't want to post those samples of my work for public viewing. However, I do carry them as hard copies in my portfolio whenever I've had an interview. They're also mentioned in my CV.
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair points, Spiral and Nomad!
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Solar Strength



Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Bangkok, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
website/blog with my stuff on it seems to me unnecessary - that's basically giving away my work, which I do on an individual basis, but I think no need to go for wholesale give-away to all and sundry.


Agreed.

You would also have all kinds of people around the world re-posting your papers and uploading them to Scribed, blogs, etc. without your permission.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, unless you're planning to copyright and publish them, where's the problem?

I always share with my colleagues - and they do with me. I don't always use the stuff or I might modify some of it (and I'm sure the same is true of them), but it saves me and them some time when we're teaching the same levels.

I see it as a win/win. And even if I don't get anything back from stuff posted on the Net, how does it hurt me if someone else uses my stuff?

I consider it a complement. Very Happy

Regards,
John
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear johnslat:

As I noted above, I also freely share materials with colleagues and other individuals - the question was just whether it's a good idea to post them publically on a website or something for anyone anywhere to use.

I admit that the idea of creating a website to publically post my work for all and sundry doesn't appeal to me in any way. Partly because I work with a very narrow segment of learners, and my stuff wouldn't have much general application, and partly because I would have zero knowledge of how it might be used or to whom it might be attributed in such a context.

Best,
spiral
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teacheratlarge



Joined: 17 Nov 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you do know you can publish on the web and claim copyright to your material, right? So I am not sure what the fear would be... Shocked , perhaps that someone would , gasp use it in a different way?

Viva la difference! Cool
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