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Sashadroogie
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| fluffyhamster wrote: |
Post removed due to zero response. (If anyone would like to (re-)read what I wrote though and perhaps even discuss it, just ask and I'll re-post  ).
Yup, I don't like talking to myself, and IMHO too many replies from any number of users get left hanging for far too long if not forever on these forums. (One to discuss maybe!). Even a TL: DR would be something.  |
Just to remind you, you did ask for a response. Now you are slapping down the one poster who did reply initially because the post wasn't to your liking. Such perversity...
Next time, all you'll get really is a TL;DR... |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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| Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, it was the OP who was pushing most for more responses, and presumably wants them to be on-topic (actually about the grammar concerned) instead of apparent derailing attempts ('This "ungrammatical" usage stems from ignorance' is essentially what you are saying). I've tried my best to help the OP and answer the original question, and certainly do not want to get drawn into political discussions (there's the Current Events forum for those). And I really don't see why I should now be expected to discuss or "deal with" 'I was stood there' when the thread was about 'go (?to) fly a kite', but you are of course welcome to start another thread, or enter your choice of item(s) if you haven't already (I've not checked) on one where it or they would be more at home and appropriate (those "pet peeves"-type threads, for instance). Again, this all seems IMHO quite fair to say, and I will not be drawn further by additional off-topic or personal comments. |
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Mr. English
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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Location: Nakuru, Kenya
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| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for all comments, though I am still unsure how to explain it to my students. |
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fluffyhamster
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hopefully they'll have found some other (minor) point to worry about by next week, Mr E, and will soon forget about this one or let it slide!  |
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Chancellor
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: infinitives without to |
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| A sentence in a writing book written by Chinese: "One day my sister told me to go to fly a kite." A student wants to know why I tell them that the second "to" should not be used. I have searched Swan's Practical English Usage and find no discrete answer to this question. Can anyone enlighten me? |
"Go fly a kite" is an idiom and this particular idiom is without "to." It's just the form this particular idiom takes. |
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