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Bud Powell
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| chinatimes wrote: |
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| To allow such correspondence to continue without correction will lead others to believe that one can apply to a mainland-based Chinese city governmental agency for a visa. |
Who else would they apply to?
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I'll let someone else answer your question. If you haven't learned the basic facts of acquiring a visa after having joined the forum a year ago, I don't think you'll understand what I'll tell you.
Good luck. Let us know when your visa arrives from Beijing. |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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| Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| chinatimes wrote: |
| Bud Powell wrote: |
| To allow such correspondence to continue without correction will lead others to believe that one can apply to a mainland-based Chinese city governmental agency for a visa. |
Who else would they apply to? |
buddy is right. we should correct the newbie's
terminology right from the start. elsewhise
he/she'll be confusing work permits with fecs,
and visas with residence permits.
to get a visa, you would apply at a chinese
embassy or consulate, usually in your home
country. you may sometimes apply in a third
country, but normally you must be on a long-
term (not tourist) visa in that country. some
provinces allow you to apply for your work
visa in hong kong.
before you do that, the school needs to apply
for your visa invitation letter from the provincial
foreign affairs office.
in increasingly rare circumstances, some are
able to get a visa in country. it's possible, but
don't count on it.
how's that? |
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BlueBlood
Joined: 31 Aug 2013
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| Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Frankly it sounds like getting a Z-visa is becoming a pain in the arse. That's the downside.
On the bright side, I figure that will ultimately lead to fewer FT's in China, increasing the demand. At the very least, it will (maybe already has led to) fewer legal FT's in China. |
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chinatimes
Joined: 27 May 2012
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| Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:03 am Post subject: |
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to get a visa, you would apply at a chinese
embassy or consulate, usually in your home
country. |
No, that is not the first step. You would get documents from your school, and then go.
If I were a new teacher I would read that thinking I could just show up there and fill out an application. It's not that black and white.
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| I'll let someone else answer your question. If you haven't learned the basic facts of acquiring a visa after having joined the forum a year ago, I don't think you'll understand what I'll tell you. |
I have done it 4 times so far and a student visa. I do know the process. I am asking you to clarify yourself because you aren't being clear. This isn't the time to ask someone else to bail you out. Especially when they gave bad advice as shown above.
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| Good luck. Let us know when your visa arrives from Beijing. |
I am not in Beijing. I was, but after getting a visa and residence permits with essentially the same place in China, I think I can vouch for the fact you would need to go to a PSB and the school would need to prepare documents. A teacher CANNOT just waltz into a Chinese embassy or consulate in their country and apply for a work visa without these documents. |
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Bud Powell
Joined: 11 Jul 2013
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| Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Reread your conversation, then tell me who is REALLY wrong and where it started to go wrong.
I skipped the steps leading up to getting the necessary paperwork for a reason. Figure it out. It'll be good mental exercise.
I'm not interested in trading barbs here. My interest is in making sure that others who are NEW TO THE FORUM aren't led astray by a discussion based upon flawed information about WHERE one applies for a visa. One might not believe that anyone who participated in the conversation had any clue just from reading the preceding conversation. Don't take offense when someone tries to make a necessary clarification.
It's not all about you, and this forum exists for the GOOD of all participants.
Over and outta this one. Good luck. I mean it. Love and peace, etc., etc..
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
Posts: 3325
Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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| Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| chinatimes wrote: |
| No, that is not the first step. You would get documents from your school, and then go. |
i wish ida said that! no wait, i did! 
| not chinatimes wrote: |
before you do that, the school needs to apply
for your visa invitation letter from the provincial
foreign affairs office. |
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Shanghai Noon
Joined: 18 Aug 2013
Posts: 589
Location: Shanghai, China
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| Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| As I understand, the processing time in every province is officially three weeks. After you submit the application, they give you a receipt with the collection date. In Shanghai, I submitted my Residence Permit application on August 24th. According to my receipt, the collection date was to be on September 16th, and I picked it up on the 17th. The issuance date on my Residence Permit is August 30th, exactly five working days after I submitted the application, which is the way it was before July 1, 2013. I wonder if they would have given it back sooner if I had gone to the Public Security Bureau and asked for it... |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Shanghai Noon wrote: |
| As I understand, the processing time in every province is officially three weeks. After you submit the application, they give you a receipt with the collection date. In Shanghai, I submitted my Residence Permit application on August 24th. According to my receipt, the collection date was to be on September 16th, and I picked it up on the 17th. The issuance date on my Residence Permit is August 30th, exactly five working days after I submitted the application, which is the way it was before July 1, 2013. I wonder if they would have given it back sooner if I had gone to the Public Security Bureau and asked for it... |
Just a note, Shanghai understands better than other other jurisdictions, it seems, the importance of creating a smooth process for foreigners. That is one reason why their requirements are significantly less than other big Eastern cities. When the fifteen day requirement for processing applications came out recently, the foreign business community went so ape s*** that Shanghai closed the office for the day. They then decided to promise to process them in five days. The kind of smart move that will attract more investment and such away from Beijing, Shenzhen etc. |
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