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Big difference between the eikaiwa agencies/schools?
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rtm wrote:
No, he's not dead. He still posts on some other forums (e.g., GaijinPot).


Why has he stopped posting on Dave's ESL Cafe?

As long as he's still breathing, I guess. I don't' really miss him, but it's more a feeling of surprise that he hasn't posted in several months when he's been compulsive about it for the last decade.
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Rooster.



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solar Strength wrote:
rtm wrote:
No, he's not dead. He still posts on some other forums (e.g., GaijinPot).


Why has he stopped posting on Dave's ESL Cafe?

As long as he's still breathing, I guess. I don't' really miss him, but it's more a feeling of surprise that he hasn't posted in several months when he's been compulsive about it for the last decade.


He hasn't been on Gajinpot in almost a week.
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Coolguy123



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rebelsatellite wrote:
One can teach TELF anywhere in the world but one cannot live in Japan anywhere in the world.

If anyone has any recent direct experience they could share beyond the anecdotal that would be fantastic.

Many thanks,

R.S.


Rebelsatellite -

I'm in a similar position to you. I love Japan, and I worked there for a year (not an eikaiwa). Am considering a job at an Eikaiwa. I met people when I was there and a lot of them seemed to complain about the job for various reasons, but I'm not really sure if they were just run of the mill complaints about jobs in general, or if they just didn't like teaching. One of the main challenges to being in Japan, though, is being an outsider. It can get tiring after awhile! Some people are more OK with it than others.

That, and adapting to a very foreign culture can be challenging, as well as the high cost of living.
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rebelsatellite



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coolguy123 wrote:
rebelsatellite wrote:
One can teach TELF anywhere in the world but one cannot live in Japan anywhere in the world.

If anyone has any recent direct experience they could share beyond the anecdotal that would be fantastic.

Many thanks,

R.S.


Rebelsatellite -

I'm in a similar position to you. I love Japan, and I worked there for a year (not an eikaiwa). Am considering a job at an Eikaiwa. I met people when I was there and a lot of them seemed to complain about the job for various reasons, but I'm not really sure if they were just run of the mill complaints about jobs in general, or if they just didn't like teaching. One of the main challenges to being in Japan, though, is being an outsider. It can get tiring after awhile! Some people are more OK with it than others.

That, and adapting to a very foreign culture can be challenging, as well as the high cost of living.


Thanks for actually addressing my post and good luck in your job search!
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've worked at both and I'd go with a job at a school over Eikaiwa every time, but that's just my opinion.

At a school, you can learn about Japanese culture and language, form better bonds with the kids and if you're lucky and make the right impression, be treated like a member of the school.

Eikaiwas are generally full of foreigners and Japanese who speak fluent English, so be prepared to be stuck in a English bubble for your stay in Japan. I know some who have done it, but most people who spend their entire time working for Eikaiwa have terrible Japanese.

Also, Eikaiwa working hours change from week to week, sometimes day to day, so it's difficult to organise any other part-time work around it.
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marley'sghost



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsintodreams wrote:
I've worked at both and I'd go with a job at a school over Eikaiwa every time, but that's just my opinion.

At a school, you can learn about Japanese culture and language, form better bonds with the kids and if you're lucky and make the right impression, be treated like a member of the school.

Eikaiwas are generally full of foreigners and Japanese who speak fluent English, so be prepared to be stuck in a English bubble for your stay in Japan. I know some who have done it, but most people who spend their entire time working for Eikaiwa have terrible Japanese.

Also, Eikaiwa working hours change from week to week, sometimes day to day, so it's difficult to organise any other part-time work around it.


I think the OP was asking about differences between ECC and Shane specifically, but these are good points. I work for a dispatch company in a public JHS. I like the regular hours (M-F 8:30ish to 4:30-ish). Lots of down time between classes to do prep work, write on Dave's ESL Cafe, study, and put together private lessons. If you can handle life at "school" it has quite a few advantages over eikaiwa-land that I can see.
But, hey a job's a job. Shane or ECC will get you in Japan, get a roof over your head and most importantly a visa, and from there you can network and see what else you can turn up.
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kah5217



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work dispatch too, but I have little to no realistic downtime for the majority of the week and my school wants me to eat with the kids. So you never really know what you're getting into until you arrive, and by then it's really too late to complain about it.
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steki47



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solar Strength wrote:
rebelsatellite wrote:
One can teach TELF anywhere in the world but one cannot live in Japan anywhere in the world.


I read this and've re-read it. What a weird thought.


This line makes sense to me.

If you want to teach English overseas, there are many countries to choose from.
If you want to live/work in Japan, there is only one country to choose from.
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HLJHLJ



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if you are only interested in living in Japan, and have no interest in TEFL, don't be surprised when schools pick up on that and don't hire you.
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