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jamessn
Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:13 pm Post subject: BENDA and ANGLO ENGLISH |
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Hi everyone,
I'm looking into this one small english language school in Sanyoonoda-shi, Japan called the British English & New Dance Academy, run by a man named Ted Nutton.
The contract seems decent enough, and I like the idea of a smaller work environment, and a boss who clearly speaks English himself (already spoken to him in interview).
The main concern I currently have is simply that I can find any real information or outside reviews about them anywhere. Now this may be normal as they only have about 6 ESL teachers at any point, but the school has been around since the 80's or 90's depending on the business profiles I look up.
Also, because I've been told that sometimes ESL schools with a bad reputation might just change their name to avoid all the bad internet buzz, I did a more general search of schools in the area and found a recent posting for Anglo English School (A.E.S), owned by the same guy, and all the facebook posts and pictures are the same for both schools. He did mention that there were two locations, but didn't mention that they had different names, so It's a little confusing and putting me a bit at unease.
I guess what I'm asking is if anyone has heard of either of these schools before, worked for them, or know someone who has, because the most recent info on them from this forum dates back to 2007.
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fredyis42
Joined: 16 Sep 2013 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Hi. I found a site for BENDA and I also looked at their Facebook page.
http://bendaacademy.jimdo.com/ Only in Japanese.
I don't know a lot about them but here is what I do know. I am a man and I applied for a job with them. Didn't get a response at all and I
wondered why until I found their site and saw that all of the "teachers" are women. No, problem but as as I man I do have to ask why. I think it is because women are seen are more arty and dancy. Sorry I know those two words don't exist but that is what BENDA stands for. The British English and New Dance Academy. They really focus in dance using English as a draw card. Well that is my impression. The Facebook page also gives the same impression with focus on music and dance and the arts in some way.
As for Anglo English. It really does sound like the name of a school. If I was Japanese I would know that I can go here and learn British English. I don't know anything about this school. I did find a site, all in Japanese and again a lot of the teachers if not all of them are women. Why? You can only wonder.
What I do know about BENDA is that every month they adverstise in O-Hayo Sensai. The question is why? I think if you saw an ad in the paper all the time you would wonder why. You would think people go through the mill a lot or that the company is really fussy. Good luck and I hope it helps. Personally I wouldn't waste my time with BENDA or ANGLO ENGLISH. They may seem friendly but the owner who is a man may not be the one wearing the pants at these schools and since the owner is a man and if there is a high turn around does that mean there is hanky panky going on since all of the teachers are women. |
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Pitarou
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1116 Location: Narita, Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:04 am Post subject: |
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fredyis42 wrote: |
Didn't get a response at all and I
wondered why until I found their site and saw that all of the "teachers" are women. No, problem but as as I man I do have to ask why. |
They probably have a lot of infant classes.
Try finding a Japanese male nursery school teacher. |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Pitarou wrote: |
fredyis42 wrote: |
Didn't get a response at all and I
wondered why until I found their site and saw that all of the "teachers" are women. No, problem but as as I man I do have to ask why. |
They probably have a lot of infant classes.
Try finding a Japanese male nursery school teacher. |
It is also a dance school.
But in general all female teachers would be a red light. Especially in Japan where English teachers are male. This case might be different, but I would still be cautious |
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Pitarou
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1116 Location: Narita, Japan
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:17 am Post subject: |
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rxk22 wrote: |
But in general all female teachers would be a red light. Especially in Japan where English teachers are male. |
Says who!?
It's true that there are more male than female English teachers in Japan, but I don't hear female English teachers complaining that it's harder to find jobs. If they have any complaint, it's that they tend to get shunted into the "baby sitting" jobs. |
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Lady Optima
Joined: 18 Feb 2013 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:45 am Post subject: |
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I would imagine the reason that they are always advertising is because Sanyoonoda is *truly* the sticks.
It might be difficult to get a teacher to want to go there and then to get a teacher to stay.
Take that into consideration before you agree to a contract, if you want to live in the middle of nowhere.
Closest "big" city is Shimonoseki which is nice and all, (Ube isn't too far but it is smaller) but Sanyoonoda is chirping crickets and croaking frogs but I am sure for the locals and the nature lovers it is not without its charms.
I was there last weekend. |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Well, as it normally is male English teachers outnumber the women a good 4 to 1 or so. So being all women is def something that would make me wonder about what is going on.
Had to google it but yes Sanyoonoda is a small town. Well nothing big is going to be in Yamaguchi anyways. It is also pretty far from any real city save Fukuoka. So getting a gaijin out there might be tough. |
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Pitarou
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1116 Location: Narita, Japan
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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rxk22 wrote: |
Well, as it normally is male English teachers outnumber the women a good 4 to 1 or so. So being all women is def something that would make me wonder about what is going on. |
I presume we're not including the Philippino housewives or Japanese Moms here.
Of course there are more guys than gals, but I don't think it's because schools won't hire women. There are plenty of other reasons why Western women are less likely to come to Japan, and more likely to leave.
(if you're a guy) Do you like it when your female co-workers pour drinks for you?
(if you're a girl) Do you like it when your male co-workers expect you to pour drinks for them? |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:09 am Post subject: |
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I presume we're not including the Philippino housewives or Japanese Moms here.
Of course there are more guys than gals, but I don't think it's because schools won't hire women. There are plenty of other reasons why Western women are less likely to come to Japan, and more likely to leave.
(if you're a guy) Do you like it when your female co-workers pour drinks for you?
(if you're a girl) Do you like it when your male co-workers expect you to pour drinks for them?[/quote]
i wouldn't count Japanese Moms as teachers. JTs don't count as EFL for the most part IMHO.
There are a decent amount of Filipinos, but I have been gone for almost 2 years. Are there a significant amount more?
Anyhow, as Japan is pretty unfriendly to the idea of feminism, it doesn't attract that many western women. As an ALT and an Eikaiwa monkey, women were pretty rare. So just out of probability, having an all women staff is something to give one pause. |
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piglet44
Joined: 26 Aug 2010 Posts: 157
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:44 am Post subject: |
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I am a female teacher and they never replied to me, I am now thinking perhaps because I am not young and nubile? |
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Lamarr
Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Posts: 190
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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The name BENDA would put me off straight away. Why would a native English-speaking owner call their school a name like that? Even more, is his name a mickey-take as well? Ted Nutton, for goodness sake?
The fact that it's out in the sticks in Fukuoka raises alarm bells too. Not saying this guy is one of them, but there've been stories of dodgy pervert English teachers in that neck of the woods on and off for years now. Those things in themselves would put me off and make me look elsewhere.
That said, ask Mr. Know-it-all Taikibansei about it. I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in with his vast, superior knowledge of these things. He knows everything there is to know about English teaching the world over, unlike frauds such as myself. |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 811 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Lamarr wrote: |
The name BENDA would put me off straight away. Why would a native English-speaking owner call their school a name like that? Even more, is his name a mickey-take as well? Ted Nutton, for goodness sake?
The fact that it's out in the sticks in Fukuoka raises alarm bells too. Not saying this guy is one of them, but there've been stories of dodgy pervert English teachers in that neck of the woods on and off for years now. Those things in themselves would put me off and make me look elsewhere.
That said, ask Mr. Know-it-all Taikibansei about it. I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in with his vast, superior knowledge of these things. He knows everything there is to know about English teaching the world over, unlike frauds such as myself. |
Well, as the subject of dodgy English perverts infesting the woods of Fukuoka is a bit outside my field, I bow to your superior expertise in this area. Isn't it great how we can learn from each other on this discussion board?
You know, there used to be a large group of "know-it-all" posters on this board, people like Gordon, PaulH, Sherri, Glenski, wintersweet, furiousmilksheikali, guest of Japan, Tokyoliz, GambateBingBangBOOM, etc. All had expertise in different aspects of hiring/employment. Most lived (far) away from Tokyo, and so were able to give "know-it-all" accounts--i.e., differing takes on/descriptions of--the hiring/employment/living situations near them. It used to be great here, learning from people with different backgrounds and experiences, particularly as the hiring/employment/living situations of so many differ completely depending on both one's background and where one lives. Of the people in this original group, only Tokyoliz is left...and it's at least partly because of personal attacks such as this.
The result is that discussions here for several years have focused almost completely on perspectives from those struggling to make do in the extremely competitive Kanto market, particularly Tokyo. It's too bad that viewpoints from people in other regions or with different backgrounds are no longer acceptable here.... |
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TokyoLiz
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1548 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, Lamar, that's a nasty comment. Taikibansei and other veterans have taken the time to post thoughtful, well-informed responses so many times. He's one of the go-to people here.
Add to Taikibansei's list Sweetsee, who used to contribute here.
Back to the topic - when I was hiring English teachers (ALTs and ESL specialties) it was extremely hard to find women candidates, which schools frequently requested. Some schools want to have gender balance in their foreign staff, others want to avoid issues with guys who skirt-chase (their prejudice, not mine).
There are many schools that incorporate movement or dance in their curriculum. Early childhood education specialists, dancers, etc. are more likely to be female.
It's not surprising that the school struggles to retain women teachers at a rural school.
Pitarou, women TESOL teachers with experience and a qualification can get proper jobs here. Many of my women teacher colleagues are TESOL MA or K-12 educators. They work in international schools, private high schools with returnee or accelerated English programs, or universities.
If you don't have teacher education, sure, you're looking at eikaiwa and ALT work, not academic programs. |
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Lamarr
Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Posts: 190
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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He was very rude to me on here some time ago, so if you want to look for the original source of any nasty comments and the reasons for them, take it up with him. I proffered some information based on what I knew, and he went absolutely berserk. Maybe he was just having a bad day.
taikibansei wrote: |
Of the people in this original group, only Tokyoliz is left...and it's at least partly because of personal attacks such as this. |
Perhaps you should point the finger at yourself instead regarding personal attacks: trying to be a clever clogs and imply that other people are making things up, as you've been doing with certain posters on this thread, and like you did with me.
Maybe that's the reason fewer people post here. |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 811 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Lamarr wrote: |
He was very rude to me on here some time ago, so if you want to look for the original source of any nasty comments and the reasons for them, take it up with him. I proffered some information based on what I knew, and he went absolutely berserk. Maybe he was just having a bad day. |
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but my sincere apologies if you feel I've hurt your feelings in the past. Though...aren't you aikido guy?
Lamarr wrote: |
Perhaps you should point the finger at yourself instead regarding personal attacks: trying to be a clever clogs and imply that other people are making things up, as you've been doing with certain posters on this thread, and like you did with me. |
If you're referring to the other thread on the first page, I've asked questions, providing links to substantiate the reasoning behind these questions. (Quite possibly, I've done the same in the past to you--nothing insulting was intended by this!) Nowhere do I state or imply that people are lying. I do, however, suggest that the full story is not being told and/or that apples are being compared to oranges.
E.g., in Brazil, the visa problems are legendary. Anybody running a successful business there would first have had to deal with this issue. As it's not a simple problem to fix, I asked how. (I'm guessing that the poster either "solved" this issue through marriage or has citizenship.)
With regards to Ecuador, I've followed HLJHLJ's posts on other boards, so I know something about her strong background. Also, as she just shared on that other thread, her husband was a full-time Japanese university hire on a three-year contract. While the overall working conditions at that school sounded absolutely awful, if he was full-time, her husband's salary (not counting benefits) was between $55,000-$70,000 US/year, with her part-time salary on top of this.
In other words, her husband left one comparatively high-paying job in Japan for another comparatively high paying job in Ecuador. I have to assume from this that he's very well qualified, with significant work experience and publications in addition to the PhD. I imagine it would be more difficult for any of us (to include myself) hoping to find such employment in Ecuador.
Compared to this, most of the people posting to this thread do not have such backgrounds and have talked about receiving salaries in the $30,000-40,000 US range. These salaries are not good (particularly for Tokyo!), and the working conditions described often seem horrible to me. I feel for the people in these situations. However, the conditions in many countries are deteriorating, with qualification requirements for even crappy jobs shooting through the roof. Leaving Japan without taking this into account (as, say, mitsui has done by getting a teacher's license) will lead you to even more grief. Moreover, Japan, especially if you're living away from Tokyo, still offers comparatively decent opportunities...as long as you are comparing similar situations. That was my point. |
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