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rtm
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| nightsintodreams wrote: |
I worked at a school with non-Japanese students who were born in Japan and so truly did have native level Japanese, no one ever misunderstood them.
My Japanese isn't great, but I rarely have people misunderstand me (although it does happen sometimes when I try and explain things).
One of my close friends is an American who gives presentations in Japanese for a well known automobile manufacturer. How would this be possible if Japanese people refuse to understand gaijin Japanese? |
kah5217 never said that no Japanese people ever understand Japanese spoken by non-Japanese. Of course some/most people will understand. However, there are some people who are not very willing to understand. I'm sure we've all encountered people who are more or less willing to communicate, and I'm sure we've found that people who are more willing to communicate will understand accented speech better.
Whether low willingness to communicate is more common in Japan, I have no idea, but there is variation among people anywhere. |
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judoka
Joined: 28 Jan 2009
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Location: North Pole
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks guys. I'll probably study at Yoshida Institute in Shinjuku. If anyone knows anything about this school please let me know. |
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kah5217
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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Location: Ibaraki
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| nightsintodreams wrote: |
So I ask again, where did you hear what you're claiming to be true, did someone with true native level Japanese tell you as much or did you just learn it from your psychology degree?
I'd love to see the article you mention. |
I said I didn't have one. I don't support him, but if you want to read about discrimination, look up Aruto's site and go from there.
I love Japan and I love the Japanese, but they're xenophobic and there are plenty of newspaper stories about it. You honestly can't tell me that a hiring manager is going to pick a fluent American over a Japanese with the same qualifications for a domestic job. International relations, perhaps, but most companies here aren't into that. |
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SeasonedVet
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| kah5217 wrote: |
| You can have the best test score and speak Japanese like you were born here, and there are still those who will say they can't understand your gaijin accent. The companies won't put you in a position to attract clients unless it's an eikaiwa, so upward mobility is limited. |
Don't see anything wrong with this statement as long as it is explained.
Kah5217 is kinda correct.
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| Sometimes it's better to accept the fact that you're a foreigner than to try and become Japanese |
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As far as this part of the statement is concerned, not sure that the OP was doing this. |
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