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Availability of big town VS. small town Uni positions

 
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ChineseDwarf



Joined: 03 Oct 2013
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:05 am    Post subject: Availability of big town VS. small town Uni positions Reply with quote

So a certain recruiting agency (yea, I know you all told me not to go to them) keeps telling me that China's bigger cities enforce their "2 years teaching experience and a TESOL" requirement. She has told me that it will be very hard to get in and that none of them will break the rule. Although from the stories I have heard on here, it seems that they break it often.

Anyways is this BS? Is she trying to get me to fill her small town job positions? She has suggested I go to smaller towns and offered me jobs in towns like Daqing and Changzhi.

If is is true, what is the cheapest and quickest TELF I can get that will pass when applying to universities?

Thanks for your responses guys.
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that is fair comment from the recruiter. Also, if you are looking for a Feb start then you are prospecting in a smaller 'mine' than if you are looking at September.
If you have limited qualifications the a smaller town gig to start with would be the way to go. Any city with a proper tertiary uni or vocational will be a sizeable burg in China. Ask how many other FTs there are. Less than 3 would be a very puny operation. Also don't be sucked in by any deal that suggests a tourist visa and where you don't get to talk to the school direct.
The school must be the only employer and get confirmation that you live and work on the one campus.
As to an ESL qual a foundation cert from someone like Teach International could be useful but they may not have a course location where you live.
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choudoufu



Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Availability of big town VS. small town Uni positions Reply with quote

ChineseDwarf wrote:
So a certain recruiting agency ... keeps telling me........trying to get me to fill her small town job positions?.


c'mon. how hard is it to look up some school addresses and fire off
a couple hundred emails?

why do you insist on depending on someone with an interest in
screwing you over?

however, as we all know, every discus has two sides. nothing wrong
with small towns in china.......assuming you know what you're getting
yourself into. i personably prefer a "village" with less than half a
million in the district, or 250k in the urban center.
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MisterButtkins



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started working in Shenyang without 2 yrs experience or a certificate, and many of my coworkers at that job did the same.

Shenyang is not Beijing or Shanghai, but it is the largest city in NE China and definitely not small.
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ChineseDwarf



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterButtkins wrote:
I started working in Shenyang without 2 yrs experience or a certificate, and many of my coworkers at that job did the same.

Shenyang is not Beijing or Shanghai, but it is the largest city in NE China and definitely not small.


Yea I didn't try to get into Beijing or Shanghai, mostly towns the size of Shenyang, but they keep pushing really small cities with less than a million people.

As for applying directly to the universities I did for about 15+, none of them replied. It is a little hard to find direct e-mails, and I am guessing some of the e-mails on the website are random offices who probably never send your app to the FAO.

I wouldn't mind if it was a small town near a bigger city, but they keep giving me ones in the middle of nowhere. No offense to the people who enjoy the small towns.
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MisterButtkins



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehh just to throw a few such cities out there, one of my friends worked in Suihua, Heilongjiang, which is about 90 minutes from Harbin.

Another friend worked in Huludao, which is like 60 minutes from Shenyang (or less with new train?).

Of course both of these are cold areas, which some people don't like. Obviously, I have mostly worked in the northeast. But I'm sure there are comparable cities in the warmer parts of China.
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