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Balzac

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 266
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Effect of clampdown on schools, colleges and unis |
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Hi,
I was wondering how many people have been affected by the clampdown after amnesty in schools, college and universities?
Has your place of work been affected? To what extent? Is it just the local hires like the Indian admin staff or others like the toilet cleaners and other ancillary staff? Is your ELT department affected?
There are reports that many colleges and unis have been employing non iqama holding staff (those only on visitor or business visas) and that many have had to let those staff members go or send them off immediately on an employment visa application run.
Some really big and longstanding companies in KSA have been affected by this.
Can anyone confirm this in their own workplace?
What's the skinny from other places in KSA?
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currentaffairs
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 828
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Yes, the long and the short of it is you need an iqama to work here now. All the companies and universities that I know of have sent staff home to get iqamas if they weren't already on them. |
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Balzac

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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Yep CurrentAffairs,
that's seems to be the new dynamic. A case of "Iqama is the new business visa".
It's definitely a game changer as all the media reports and the chatter on Twitter et all suggests that the Saudis are not going to let up on this and they are 100% serious about getting everone into the system irrespective of reputation, wasta, or otherwise family connections.
I suspect the airlines will continue to do brisk business as the expats either leave on final exit visas or leave with the intention of returning on employment visas.
Only time will tell if this can be achieved without too much distress or hurting of the local economy, but with the riots in southern Riyadh last night ending in at least two deaths, and the street protests, this may just be the beginning of widespread unrest amng the poorer breathren working in KSA.
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jaffa
Joined: 25 Oct 2012 Posts: 403
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Not in academia but the disappearance of the Nepalese guy from my local bicycle repair workshop is damn inconvenient I've got to say. I'm thinking of staging a riot myself to protest his deportation. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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jaffa wrote: |
the disappearance of the Nepalese guy from my local bicycle repair workshop is damn inconvenient.... |
sounds like a job for.... |
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Czaerana
Joined: 23 Nov 2009 Posts: 17
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:43 am Post subject: |
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sicklyman wrote: |
jaffa wrote: |
the disappearance of the Nepalese guy from my local bicycle repair workshop is damn inconvenient.... |
sounds like a job for.... |
Bicycle Repair Man!  |
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jaffa
Joined: 25 Oct 2012 Posts: 403
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Hehe
He did a brilliant job on punctures by slicing the old inner tube in half, flattening it out then pushing it back into the tyre to make it thicker. Then he put in the new inner tube. Genius. Now there's some local duffer who can barely operate a pump.
I picked up a bootleg copy of Monty Python's Flying Circus and have got to say that it really isn't funny at all. I reckon it was a semi naked woman per episode that made it popular. It's always been maintained that MP 'broke down the 4th wall of comedy', which in reality meant getting good looking chicks in lingerie past the censor. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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individual episodes were hit and miss. But when they hit, boy did they hit. They redefined comedy.
Avoid the fourth/last series without Cleese who had left by then and was busy writing the classic Fawlty Towers with his wife. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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The humor of the MP TV series normally escaped me... and I had rather assumed that it was cultural in many cases. But their movies were great... and Fawlty Towers definitely showcased the comic genius of Mr Cleese.
But... we do digress... again.
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Balzac

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Umm feel free to discuss anything related to the original post  |
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rollingk
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I know of some managers of a couple of companies who were doing a sky is falling bit a while back, and was insisting that everyone get proper work visas over their vacations, but they seem to have recently relented -- not sure if this is just in keeping with their usual shortsightedness or means something more. There are certainly teachers still working without iqamas. |
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scot47

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Would YOU work without an Iqama ? |
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EnglishDoYouSpeakIt
Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 151 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:13 am Post subject: |
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The bicala right next to my flat has been closed for like a week now. I guess the employees were all iqama-less. It was where I get my water jugs, now I have to walk an extra 100 meters (each way!) to the other bicala.
As far as my place of employment, it would seem everyone had an iqama to begin with as no one has vanished. It's a government institute so that's probably why. |
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rollingk
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Would YOU work without an Iqama ? |
Actually, I have. During this time I didn't feel as encouraged to bend over as I do now, nor as likely to rationalize any such nonsense.
Although there is more uncertainty at present I think this will eventually work itself out and there will continue to be a shortcut route for working here. 'Course I might be wrong.
At present if you are without an iqama, what could happen anyway . .. you might be sent away at a whim? And wouldn't that be new for Saudi Arabia. |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:31 am Post subject: |
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currentaffairs wrote: |
Yes, the long and the short of it is you need an iqama to work here now. All the companies and universities that I know of have sent staff home to get iqamas if they weren't already on them. |
An iqama was always required; it is just being enforced now for the first time ever. |
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