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mashkif
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1. Walk in and teach ESL and leave?
2. Try to open their minds?
3. Change their perceptions and attitudes toward education? |
Nobody asked me, but for what it's worth - 2 & 3 are inappropriate pretty much everywhere, IMO. |
On the contrary: #2 and #3 are what higher education and academia are all about! You go to a university to learn, to question to wonder, to doubt, to research, to investigate, to form INFORMED opinions.
Now, you might argue that those are not necessarily the aims of P.Y.Ps, but they are, should be, MUST be the aims of academic programs.
Of course, that is not necessarily applicable to Saudi Arabia or similar totalitarian states. |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011
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| What is Plumpynut's problem with Abha ? |
No idea, I thought they were great in their heyday, love Waterloo, still a great song. |
Sorry Muscat what you're talking about is ABBA. |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: On a Short Leash
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| On the contrary: #2 and #3 are what higher education and academia are all about! You go to a university to learn, to question to wonder, to doubt, to research, to investigate, to form INFORMED opinions. |
I've been teaching in progressive western universities for over a decade. The minds of students may (hopefully will) open and their perceptions and attitudes towards education may (hopefully will) evolve in positive directions - but we cannot make these overt aims and goals of what we are doing. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Dear spiral78,
I agree - there's far too much danger of teachers having a proselytizing agenda, pushing their own opinions upon students,
If minds do open and perceptions and attitudes toward education change as a by-product, well and good (though one's definition of an "open mind" could well be very subjective.)
But these are not what we were hired for nor should they be considered our objectives.
Regards,
John
P.S. Dear plumpy nut - you DO, realize that MuscatGary was making a joke (and a pretty good one, in my opinion  ), right?
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
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| What is Plumpynut's problem with Abha ? |
No idea, I thought they were great in their heyday, love Waterloo, still a great song. |
Sorry Muscat what you're talking about is ABBA. |
Sorry Plumpy Nut... I think your sense of humour may need a checkup... |
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry Plumpy Nut... I think your sense of humour may need a checkup... |
Yeah, the funny bone may need to be examined.
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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