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IchliebeHunde1492
Joined: 21 Dec 2013
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| Anyway, you have yet to respond to the suggestions about going to Asia where jobs are plentiful. Is it a region you'd prefer to avoid? |
I agree with you all. Asia (or Russia!) is the place to go for ESL jobs. In those places, I can interview via phone or Skype, and then I can have a job/visa lined up BEFORE I get there, and that would make things much smoother. Please disregard my previous comment about me being homeless. Even at age 29, my parents look after me and wouldn't want me to be in that situation.
I wouldn't say Asia is "a region I'd prefer to avoid," nomad soul, but it's just that Asians, by the nature of their culture (nothing personal), are more "reserved," hence, harder to make friends with. Having said that, I've met very friendly Asians and Asian-Americans in my lifetime, so even that cultural statement is just a generalization. Plus, I wonder if I could get by in China without knowing those 4000+ symbols! By the way, those first few minutes of the "Karate Kid" remake, where the mother and son move to Beijing, and the son is having language barriers, really does inspire me. I guess I could read through the China discussion forums here on Dave's.
Bottom line: I have nothing against Asia, but I just need to be wary of what schools I apply for and make sure they're legit and all. The same goes for any school in the world, not just Asia. |
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johntpartee
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| Plus, I wonder if I could get by in China without knowing those 4000+ symbols |
You can.
Just try to keep a good thought; China ain't that scary. You'll have an "adjustment" period, but really not that different from going to any new place. |
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wonderingjoesmith
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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Location: Guangzhou
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| Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| IchliebeHunde1492 wrote: |
| I wouldn't say Asia is "a region I'd prefer to avoid," nomad soul, but it's just that Asians, by the nature of their culture (nothing personal), are more "reserved," hence, harder to make friends with. Having said that, I've met very friendly Asians and Asian-Americans in my lifetime, so even that cultural statement is just a generalization. Plus, I wonder if I could get by in China without knowing those 4000+ symbols! By the way, those first few minutes of the "Karate Kid" remake, where the mother and son move to Beijing, and the son is having language barriers, really does inspire me. I guess I could read through the China discussion forums here on Dave's. |
I quite relate to the issues suggested; friends are hard to make in China, although people, who often intend to use you, are easy to come. I've socialized with Latinos that had ulterior motives but not to such an extent as here at all. Further more, on the language, it definitely is a drawback on mainland China; many even assume you can read it, unlike in Hong Kong. I find a large number of locals quite primitive and unscrupulous.
Having said that, however, a true teacher, like the OP, may have a rewarding experience in a country where people are so different. All those primeval contrasts may be well addressed once in the country then. Chinese, to me, appear peaceful, and some are willing to adjust. Many value education and are willing to pay for it which I did not see as much in Latin America or EU. |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| You didn't find as many Europeans who valued education? Where were you, exactly? |
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wonderingjoesmith
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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Location: Guangzhou
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| Spain for work; Portugal, France and Italy for travel. From what I saw, it'd be hard to compare that all to China with respect to how much people are willing to pay for schooling. |
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MedellinHeel
Joined: 16 Jan 2014
Posts: 32
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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OP,
You are going about this all wrong. The only countries that I know of that people get jobs online are Korea and China. Almost every other country you will need to be there to go to the schools in person. Especially Latin America. Also you go to Europe when everyone knows thats a no no as an American / non EU visa holder.
You want to get hired online apply for jobs in Korea and China. Everywhere else you will need to fly there and have boots on the ground knocking on doors handing out your CV. |
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IchliebeHunde1492
Joined: 21 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Also you go to Europe when everyone knows thats a no no as an American / non EU visa holder. |
Actually, for some reason, Germany offers a "freelance" work visa to non-EU citizens, and in fact, I would say most English teaching positions in Germany are freelance. But I learned that's not what I thought it was; freelance teachers have to pay their own taxes, insurance, and pension, and many don't earn enough hours to make a living, so some of them have a German friend or spouse to help support them. Also, pretty much ALL a freelance teacher can do is teach Business English to adults - not the place to be if you want to teach children or teenagers (as in my case). There are, however, plentiful opportunities to teach children or teenagers in places like Latin American and Asia.
I still haven't found anything. I may have to soon give up on my dream of teaching English overseas  and move on and TRY to enjoy life in the U.S. Actually, I think the U.S. economy is doing better, more or less (of course, that depends on where in the U.S. you are).
One tip I've heard is to look for jobs where NOT as many people want to teach. EVERYONE ELSE wants to go teach in Latin America or Western Europe, but not as many people are willing to go to Asia or Russia. I'll keep my fingers crossed. |
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Cambodia!
Try it and see!
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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