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pauldowa
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 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:35 pm Post subject: SZ/HK Border Crossing |
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Hong Kong is an infatuating place. Inspired by a deep desire to see your fair home in person I sought and eventually found a position teaching English in Shenzhen. I plan on spending a considerable amount of time exploring Hong Kong. According to the Lonely Planet China guide book, the Lo Wu border checkpoint in SZ closes at 12 midnight. If this is so, is it possible to enjoy HK on a Friday night and return to SZ after midnight?
Where should I go?
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Ludwig
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Your guidebook is somewhat out of date. The border crossing you refer to is open 24 hours a day and has been for some time now.
The best thing about Shenzhen is its (sheer) proximity to Hong Kong. |
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pauldowa
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the information. |
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Ludwig
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However, the border's being open 24-hours a day does not mean that it is all that easy a task to get to and from the border after certain times (on the Hong Kong side). The MTR stops running at, I think, around 12 and does not start again till around 5am. There might be one or two minibuses going to Kowloon but I am not sure.
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pauldowa
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:18 am Post subject: Research Local Transportation |
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Ludwig,
I am also on the Lonely Planet website at this time. I got sidetracked reading more about China's history, but will make it a point to research the public transportation schedules, if possible.
This guidebook was written in 2002. The new addition has not been released yet, but they do have a new 2004 Hong Kong edition. I may buy that as well.
Based on what you told me, I can cross the border at anytime, but may have a difficult time getting to the border. Do taxi's run all night? What is the MTR?
Thanks for the information. |
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Ludwig
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Research Local Transportation |
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| pauldowa wrote: |
| Based on what you told me, I can cross the border at anytime, but may have a difficult time getting to the border. Do taxi's run all night? What is the MTR? |
Yes, of course taxis run all night. In Shenzhen everything runs 24-hours a day (including heavy construction).
'Getting to the border' in Shenzhen is no problem (save for avoiding all the pickpockets, pimps, whores, and various other general assorted street scum) as it is only a 10 minute walk from the main pedestrian shopping area.
The KCR (Kowloon Canton Railway) is the train service that runs from Hung Hom in Kowloon up to Sheung Shui in the NT which is on the border with Shenzhen (the Lo Wu border) and which is a closed area. This takes you from the border down to Kowloon Tong which is where you can change for the MTR (Mass Transit Railway), which is basically (a vastly superior) version of the London Tube and is about equal with Singapore's MRT. I forgot to add that the KCR itself stops at around 1am, I think. I would recommend an Octopus card for both! As I understand it, you can purchase a non-resident's (i.e., tourist's) Octopus card.
(Kowloon Tong is a great place to go on Sunday mornings as there is typically free entertainment offered. Many people go there to watch the Mainland tourists (who stand out like sore thumbs) returning home trying to figure out how to operate the automated ticket machines.)
Before asking what an Octopus card is, think of how many 'arms' an octopus has. That is the same number of arms you would require trying to pay for fares with cash! |
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once again
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| Ludwig, please tell us when the border at Lo Wu started to operate 24 ho urs. It is news that has passed me by. I was aware that the Lok Ma Chau border had been opened 24 hours, but not Lo Wu. Please let us know. It would be fascinating. |
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Ludwig
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| Ludwig, please tell us when the border at Lo Wu started to operate 24 ho urs. |
I am afraid I do not know what an "ho ur" is, actually. I did just find out, however, that in fact the proposed 24-hour crossing remained just that; a proposal and is still undergoing debate. |
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pauldowa
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: Lok Ma Chau Border |
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Thanks for the information Ludwig and Once Again.
I have found Lok Ma Chau on my map. It doesn't appear as if the KCR runs through this spot. Is it possible to get there via another mode of public transportation?
I researched the train schedules. It appears that the trains do stop around 1am. If I read the timetable correctly, I would say the last KCR to Lo Wu leaves Kowloon at 12:05am. I'll find out soon enough.
Either way, it doesn't really matter. I will be better off staying home.
Thanks again. |
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once again
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| Ludwig, so in fact the book is not indeed out of date and you do not have the intellectual and cognitive capacity to work out from the context and the letter configuration what "ho ur" may mean. And they gave you a university job: what must the standards be coming to!! |
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