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		Didah
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:08 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I lived in Japan for many years and I think that Dave Barry still has the best advice about living in Japan from his book "Dave Barry Does Japan" where he observes that the best way to go to Japan if somebody else is paying for it. That advice is more than 20 years old and judging from my recent visit, it still holds true.  The cup of noodles and one cup Ozeki budget gets old pretty fast.
 
 
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		fat_chris
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:25 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | I lived in Japan for many years and I think that Dave Barry still has the best advice about living in Japan from his book "Dave Barry Does Japan" where he observes that the best way to go to Japan if somebody else is paying for it. That advice is more than 20 years old and judging from my recent visit, it still holds true.  The cup of noodles and one cup Ozeki budget gets old pretty fast. | 
	 
 
 
 
Seconded.
 
 
I did the JET Programme for five years and they paid for a lot of my stuff. It was a good five years--both professionally and personally.
 
 
I recommend looking at the JET Programme to anyone who wants to make a first step into Japan…and get some things paid for.
 
 
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		Sour Grape
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Really Need Budget Advice... | 
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	  Hi...
 
I’m wondering if 80,000 Yen per month would be enough to live on for living expenses (minus utilities and rent) in any of the urban areas??  I don’t go out to the movies or clubs.  I like to drink at bars with friends about twice a week, but I’m fine with drinking the cheap crap (got used to it in Korea).   I like to eat out with friends 1-2 times a week, but I also got used to eating local food in Korea, so I think I could manage the same in Japan.  However, I’m worried about the cost of fruits and vegetables in Japan in regards to grocery shopping.  I am also not a shopaholic when it comes to clothes or electronics.  With all that said, would 80,000 a month be about right, more than enough or would it be a struggle??   Thank you!!!! | 
	 
 
 
 
As long as that figure doesn't cover rent and utilities, it is doable, but probably not all that much fun. | 
			 
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		nightsintodreams
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:21 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Actually Chris, I don't know if you've heard or not, but the JET program has taken some major cuts recently.
 
 
I've heard that new JETs are now making about the same as interacs (if you factor in the extra holiday time interac employees receive). | 
			 
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		rxk22
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:45 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  Actually Chris, I don't know if you've heard or not, but the JET program has taken some major cuts recently.
 
 
I've heard that new JETs are now making about the same as interacs (if you factor in the extra holiday time interac employees receive). | 
	 
 
 
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		nightsintodreams
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:34 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Well, I heard that from a friend working for JET, but after checking on two of the JET websites it seems that JETs are paid 3,360,000 per year.
 
 
That's still quite a lot more than an Interac ALT, even if you factor in the extra time off. I hear some Interacs are only paid 220,000 per month, so that's around 2,240,000 a year. I think most Interacs are on about 250,000 though, so that would be 2,750,000. | 
			 
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		fat_chris
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:48 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | nightsintodreams wrote: | 
	 
	
	  Actually Chris, I don't know if you've heard or not, but the JET program has taken some major cuts recently.
 
 
I've heard that new JETs are now making about the same as interacs (if you factor in the extra holiday time interac employees receive). | 
	 
 
 
 
All JETs across the board used to make 3.6 million a year, but now the first years make less than that (the aforementioned 3.36 million). Each year the JET gets "a raise" and makes a bit more every year: back to 3.6 million for second years, 3.9 million for third years, and 3.96 million for the fourth and fifth years. Looks nice, BUT! They have to pay taxes from that.
 
 
http://www.jetprogramme.org/e/faq/faq10rem.html#10.2
 
 
At least the airfare to and from Japan is still covered as well as the three-day shebang in Tokyo known as Tokyo Orientation.
 
 
I still contend that getting onto the JET Programme is the best deal around for entry-level positions in Japan.
 
 
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		nightsintodreams
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject:  | 
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				A friend of mine told me that the salary had dropped to almost as low as Interac's. After doing a quick search myself though, it seems it's not as bad as I was led to believe (or interac was not as good as he was led to believe).
 
 
 
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	  I still contend that getting onto the JET Programme is the best deal around for entry-level positions in Japan. 
 
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		fat_chris
 
 
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	  I still contend that getting onto the JET Programme is the best deal around for entry-level positions in Japan. 
 
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I'd have to agree. | 
	 
 
 
 
I have to admit that I am biased because I did the full five years on the JET Programme, but it was a highly positive experience for me, both personally and professionally.
 
 
Warm regards,
 
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