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[bluetortilla]

Chodorow puts out a handy FAQ on visas:

http://lawandborder.com (look under China visa law)

I realize it's only for the issues of U.S. citizens applying for visas in the PRC, but I'm sure it's handy enough for most folks.

Anyway, how can I get to the sources of his information? For example, he usually cites the EEAL, but I'm unable to find the specific provisions. I need the actual Chinese and the government source to show in my dealings with schools, potential employers etc.

For instance, there is a new regulation that with permission of the school, X1 student visa holders are now allowed to work part time. Trouble is, no one knows about it. Procuring the government source documents might help. While that may seem unlikely, it's certainly worth a try with an agent or maybe even a lawyer (I don't know their costs though).

Personally, I need a viable way to attend grad school, and the Foreign Experts Z visa route isn't working out very well for me anymore.

Any URLs would be appreciated. I can make my way around a Chinese web site.

[jimpellow]

The one thing Gary has mentioned when it comes to Chinese law is that is not all openly accessible. Some the public never sees, some only certain entities and individuals can access, the rest is public domain so to say. I think it is the root reason why things are interpreted differently, confusion and so forth. That MAY be the issue you are having.

[bluetortilla]

[choudoufu]

thing is, the regulations (at least what i've seen translated and posted) say
you can work part-time as a student with the school's permission.

the law doesn't give you the right to work, it gives the school the right to
allow you to work. big difference. there ain't no piece of paper you can
wave at the school and say they gotta let you work. if they say no, then
you have no recourse.

who could you complain to? if you did, what would you say? that you
don't have enough money to support yourself while studying? that
wouldn't help your cause.

also........how do you define part-time work as a student? what's the
intent? especially when it comes to foreign students who are expected to
have the funds to support themselves.

if the law doesn't say (and even if it does, good luck with that!), then it
comes down to individual interpretation. mr. permission-man might say
"part-time work for a student should be no more than 5 hours per week,
just enough to pay your bar tab. you're here to study, right? you want
to work and make money? get a work visa."

[bluetortilla]

[jimpellow]

Why don't you just teach online? There are like three big online schools in China that you can work for and others in Russia, Japan, etc that pay even better. Circumvent the lack of logic in Chinese law altogether. Gary seems good at responding if he feels it will bring him clients. He is a lawyer...

[bluetortilla]