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ebooktrial0001
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 Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:30 pm Post subject: What Will a CELTA do for a person fresh out of college? |
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Hello Everyone,
My gf wants to do a CELTA in Jordan. Right now, she wants to get a job in Saudi Arabia, to be closer to Islam and save a good chunk of money.
She's only done volunteer teaching, etc. She hasn't done any real full-time teaching.
1. Is the CELTA worth it for her?
2. Given the often desperation for Western female teachers, can she perhaps get a job in Saudi?
3. If not in Saudi, then where? |
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Sashadroogie
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Perhaps best posted on the Saudi Arabia board.
In answer to Celta question generally, it will give her the basics of how to go about teaching English as foreign language. Yes, it will be worth it for her. And also worth it for any students who will be paying for her classes in the future. I'd say, go for it.
Best wishes
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scot47
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Hod
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: What Will a CELTA do for a person fresh out of college? |
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| ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
| Given the often desperation for Western female teachers, can she perhaps get a job in Saudi? |
I'm not sure about that in all honesty. I know a lot of female teachers who've worked in Saudi and all enjoyed the experience. I don't know of any off putting factors to deter females from working there. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: What Will a CELTA do for a person fresh out of college? |
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| Hod wrote: |
| ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
| Given the often desperation for Western female teachers, can she perhaps get a job in Saudi? |
I'm not sure about that in all honesty. I know a lot of female teachers who've worked in Saudi and all enjoyed the experience. I don't know of any off putting factors to deter females from working there. |
The OP is referring to the difficulties sketchy Saudi contracting companies are having filling positions with well-qualified female teachers. Which is why I find it odd that he would think this ideal for his girlfriend, who in no way, has the level of teaching experience and qualifications (and probably maturity) as a newbie. |
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johnslat
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Dear Hod,
"I know a lot of female teachers who've worked in Saudi and all enjoyed the experience."
That's odd - I knew dozens who worked there, and I can't recall even a single one who "enjoyed" the experience.
Regards,
John |
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Hod
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Dear John
I am a mere messenger of these no doubt fine female educators.
I also didn't understand the "closer to Islam" part, but it's nonetheless commendable when people choose to explore other cultures, for a short time. |
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nomad soul
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| johnslat wrote: |
Dear Hod,
"I know a lot of female teachers who've worked in Saudi and all enjoyed the experience."
That's odd - I knew dozens who worked there, and I can't recall even a single one who "enjoyed" the experience. |
I also saw that comment and well... Interesting rather than enjoyable is the word I'd use to describe my overall teaching experience in the Kingdom. Some aspects were enjoyable (I loved my dear students and my relationships with my diverse colleagues), yet there were too many cultural restrictions and challenges that kept me from really being myself there. In fact, that sentiment is echoed by most of my Saudi female friends about their own lives. Anyway, it was far from being a bad experience because I made the most of my time there and came away with a different perspective on life. |
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ebooktrial0001
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My girlfriend has done some teaching for after school programs at the local high school, etc.
She'll be a really good teacher, if she wants. She's very extroverted, reads other people well, manages them well, etc.
I'm not sure if she could get a job right away in Saudi. But, she'll keep at it because she's Muslim, wants to make a Pilgrimage, can stand a Muslim environment, speaks some Arabic, etc.
I understand that you usually need two years of full-time teaching to get one; but, I'm guessing one year in South Korea is usually enough.
After only one year in Korea, I got a job in Saudi (albeit taking over for someone who did a midnight run), with good pay (housing + $4200 a month). If I could get such a sweet job offer so quickly, maybe she can, too. |
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Hod
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| I have to ask. If she is a muslim, and whether you are or not, won't living together in Saudi present a few difficulties? |
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ebooktrial0001
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We are both Muslims.
But, we will not live together, unless we are married. |
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nomad soul
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| Hod wrote: |
| If she is a muslim, and whether you are or not, won't living together in Saudi present a few difficulties? |
Although the OP answered your question, it's uncommon for Saudi contracting companies to offer female expat employees a housing allowance. Generally, female teachers are housed in employer-provided accommodation in either a shared-living situation or in single-occupancy, apartment buildings designated for women. |
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