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choudoufu
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 Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: China contract. |
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| Job offer in Beijing. Hello my name is Steven. Any one hear of New Life ESL? Their suppose to be only American group in China helping hire teachers? They have a 5 star rating on Facebook if that means anything? Any ways here is the contract. I'm going with paid accommodation and BTW this is a paid internship position. Any thoughts? |
do they offer the same contract to native speekers? |
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svaldezi
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: China contract. |
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| choudoufu wrote: |
| svaldezi wrote: |
| Job offer in Beijing. Hello my name is Steven. Any one hear of New Life ESL? Their suppose to be only American group in China helping hire teachers? They have a 5 star rating on Facebook if that means anything? Any ways here is the contract. I'm going with paid accommodation and BTW this is a paid internship position. Any thoughts? |
do they offer the same contract to native speekers? |
As far as I know yes the same contract BTW I'm a native speaker and I'm a American. |
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svaldezi
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you for the people who actually really helped me and now I can move on from this. I have learned a good lesson. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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Several of you are not going to remain on the active list of members if you continue with the off-topic, insulting, confrontational and otherwise inappropriate postings. If you don't have something helpful to contribute, take your personal agendas elsewhere before the decision is made for you.
I kid you not.
Members observing such comments are requested to promptly advise the Mod Team. |
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NoBillyNO
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While I have seen adverts requesting Native Speakers to apply ..... I have never seen a contract that altered pay or benefits for co workers who worked along side someone.
svaldezi, this native speaker thing comes up now (as does the Wu Mao and recruiter accusations by those who have less substance to base a legitimate answer) and then as if those who hold certain passports can pass judgment based on that one fact alone.....while employers have the ability to hold nationality over the head of requirements from employment, FT's and Davesters should not...either way, those that have to consider if your worthy due to a native tongue are often not really interested in giving advice.... and what the heck.. tell em your are a native speaker and then in the next post tell em you aren't....let them compose answers based on discouraging you from thinking that a non-native has the right to anything resembling a ESL job....
Advice given by those like FC is sincere and often time right on the button. |
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svaldezi
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| NoBillyNO wrote: |
While I have seen adverts requesting Native Speakers to apply ..... I have never seen a contract that altered pay or benefits for co workers who worked along side someone.
svaldezi, this native speaker thing comes up now (as does the Wu Mao and recruiter accusations by those who have less substance to base a legitimate answer) and then as if those who hold certain passports can pass judgment based on that one fact alone.....while employers have the ability to hold nationality over the head of requirements from employment, FT's and Davesters should not...either way, those that have to consider if your worthy due to a native tongue are often not really interested in giving advice.... and what the heck.. tell em your are a native speaker and then in the next post tell em you aren't....let them compose answers based on discouraging you from thinking that a non-native has the right to anything resembling a ESL job....
Advice given by those like FC is sincere and often time right on the button. |
Excellent post! Thank you NoBillyNo! I have been following FC for a while now. I always feel like he gives the best answers and is always straight with everybody. I think SADLY I'm learning that the ESL world is a full picture of the world we live in. Plenty of Jerks, scammers, and very greedy people. Due to my own lack of diligence, experience and really just learning the ropes the hard way. I have almost been scammed twice. I came to Dave's board to learn the contract ways and hopefully finally get established in this career. |
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Fergie
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JellyRoll
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6k / 8k for 40hrs p/w farmed out to kindies n mills around the big choke. I certainly wouldn't bother with that at all! At twice that pay it'd still be underpaid compared to legit gigs. I would be stunned if they can legally hire foreigners (Z visa & work permit).
Edit : just read the bit about they will keep 2k per month of your peanut allowance for the first 3 months! FFS! Bin that trash! |
Seconded. Indeed, bin that trash.
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Yup. Thirded. 40+ hours/wk for 6K. Nope. I'm doing 16 hrs for 8k with 12k ticket and one month bonus at EOC, plus half pay on summer AND winter vacs if I sign for yr 2.
The witholding of 2k/month is a dead giveaway that it's a scam agency job.
Run, don't walk. |
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The Great North
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Why would you even consider such a contract? Are you THAT desperate to come to China friend? Seriously, as far as contracts go this one sucks wind. Also, if you just use Google you would have found the same as me:
China ESL Name Game Scam Continues - Now New Life ESL
www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=609652 Cached
Rebecca's China ESL Scam Continues As New Life ESL With...
www.realscam.com/...esl-scam-continues-new-life-esl-david... Cached
Beware China Foreign Expat Teachers - New Life ESL Scam...
www.abroadreviews.com/...expat-teachers-new-life-esl-scam Cached
This "new" esl job recruiter agency run by David Valley, Derel Yazwa, and Ms. Weintraub is NOT new at all. It is really China ESL using yet another name to rip off ...
New Life Esl SCAM | newlifeeslscam
newlifeeslscam.wordpress.com/.../new-life-esl-scam Cached
Jun 12, 2014 ยท Probably the most exciting and well-knwon introduction in a story " And the journey begins". That is what me and my friend started, an "Adventure", This ...
New Life ESL May Not Be The Scam You Think It Is...
www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2014/08/new-life-esl... Cached
So in view of all the above, New Life ESL does not merit being blacklisted unless and until more complaints surface and go unresolved beyond 30 days.
New Life and AngelIna's ESL- scam? - China School &...
china.eslteachercafe.com/topic3374-new-life...eslscam.aspx Cached
New Life and AngelIna's ESL-scam? Lesdea Posts: 1 2/13/2014: Hi everyone out there. I now know from reading blogs and links on the internet about the high degree of ...
Warning - Fake Teaching Internships Offered By China ESL...
www.abroadreviews.com/...offered-china-esl-new-life-esl-scam Cached
Warning - Fake Teaching Internships Offered By China ESL & New Life ESL - Scam!
Rebecca's China ESL Scam Continues As New Life ESL With...
www.realscam.com/f8/rebeccas-china-esl-scam-continues... Cached
Re: Rebecca's China ESL Scam Continues As New Life ESL With David Valley |
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