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baikal2.5

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 3 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:02 am Post subject: teaching without TEFL |
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I am an American who would like to teach in Russia or a Russian-speaking country, but I do not have a TEFL certification. I do have a degree, and I speak Russian.
1. Is it possible to teach English in Russia without a TEFL cert.? If so, where should I look?
2. If I do opt to get a TEFL certification, do you think I will be able to find a job pretty soon afterwards?
3. Is the job market better in Moscow or St. Petersburg (or someplace else entirely)?
Thanks! |
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waxwing
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 719 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:42 am Post subject: |
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(just some opinions.. take it with a pinch of salt)
Moscow must be the best place, if you mean by best 'easiest to find a job'. Unlike China, it's not at all easy for the average native speaker to find a job without a proper qualification here. There are a few cowboy operations who will take people like that on, but expect to end up funding the jaunt partly yourself in that case - i.e. they pay badly and are unreliable.
However, your position is entirely different as you speak Russian. If, in addition to that, you have contacts, then you can probably find a way to set yourself up as a teacher (part time, full time or privates) virtually anywhere. Only in Moscow and maybe St Pete's can you make good money though.
PS. I just noticed something .. you said 'I speak Russian', but what does that mean? Are you a native speaker in some sense, or..? |
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zaneth
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 545 Location: Between Russia and Germany
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'd pretty much second what waxwing said. You could work anywhere, but could make money in Moscow. What kind of a degree do you have? Do you have a regular school teaching certificate? For a lot of places this might count for more than the TEFL. Do you have business or scientific experience? A specialty? Let us know more about your background. |
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baikal2.5

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 3 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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My background: I have a B.A. with a double-major in anthropology and Russian. I don't have teaching qualifications, and my only teaching experience is as a volunteer GED and literacy teacher.
I'd like to revise my question: If I wanted to get a TEFL cert. and hope to teach in Russia sometime this academic year, what should I do?
-Are contracts usually available in October, or only for the spring semester?
-Should I put much faith in the "employment support" of TEFL-granting schools in Russia, like Via Lingua? I'd need to find a job pretty soon after I finished a course.
Thanks,
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waxwing
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 719 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about Via Lingua, but if you're going to get a CELTA or TESOL in Moscow or St Pete's, you shouldn't have any problem finding a position - depending how fussy you are, of course - with or without 'support'.
Edit: it should be CELTA or Trinity TESOL, nothing else. People often talk about 'TEFL cert.' but only these two certificates are valued here.
Your Russian probably isn't going to make much difference, now you've clarified. It will just oil the wheels a bit. Of course it's a plus.
Timing: any time except now is OK for looking for a job. Early September is best (for actually starting - but if you were arranging a job outside the country, you'd start looking 2 months before, because visas .. не очень легко, let's say), but it's still 'peak' season I suppose all the way through October, because not all planned positions are filled immediately. That's what I hear anyway. I was looking late last October and found something without too much trouble (I wasn't better qualified than you - worse, arguably); but I wasn't very fussy. |
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zaneth
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 545 Location: Between Russia and Germany
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:00 am Post subject: |
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I think you'll be fine. Have you ever been here before? |
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baikal2.5

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 3 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I studied abroad in St. Petersburg. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:16 am Post subject: |
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I thoiught St Petersburg was in Russia. Now you tell me it is "abroad". I am confused. |
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Communist Smurf

Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 330 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
I thoiught St Petersburg was in Russia. Now you tell me it is "abroad". I am confused. |
He studied abroad, as opposed to his country of citizenship. I've "studied abroad" a number of times and people that "study abroad" are typically referred to as "study abroad" students. Meaning, they're studying in a country that is not their own. I hope that wasn't too confusing for you.
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:26 am Post subject: |
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But America is abroad ! How can this be ? |
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Communist Smurf

Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 330 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:16 am Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
But America is abroad ! How can this be ? |
It is if it isn't your country of citizenship. How hard can this be for you to understand? |
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scot47

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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:09 am Post subject: God's Own Country !? |
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