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dongbei united
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| What if you are about to leave China and you advertise your services for when you go back home? Technically, you haven't taught any classes yet, and what you do back home is between you and your country's government. |
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Bud Powell
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 11:16 am Post subject: |
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The_Kong
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Bud Powell wrote: |
| What does this question mean? |
Seconded.
You need to clarify what you mean before we can help  |
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likwid_777
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Dongbei is asking if he or she can advertise contact details for internet teaching from home base (advertise straight to market in China to gain "edge" prior to heading back home). You shouldn't get pinned, but that's only if they believe your admittedly bizarre scenario. Maybe just put an email address rather than Chinese digits. Certainly don't go and put your Chinese address. |
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Zorak03
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Location: Guangzhou, Guangdong, China
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| A school I worked at in Guangzhou has around 25 teachers and maybe 3 who are on actually Z visas. The cops have showed up around 3 times to check documents. As long as everyone had a valid visa AND registration paper there has been no problem. One L visa teacher didn't have his registration slip and was taken away; threatened but otherwise released with a 50rmb fine. Strange situation, they all pay taxes too apparently, because they get an official tax return from the government every year. Maybe the school has some relationship. |
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RWA1981
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Javelin of Radiance wrote: |
| If you're foolish enough to work on a tourist visa in a foreign country you can expect all kinds of things to go wrong (not getting paid might be the least of your worries). The simple answer is get a work visa and the chances of getting screwed go down dramatically. |
Yes, but you are assuming that people know they are breaking the law when they come here on L, or F visas to work. Remember, most of these recruiters and agents are telling all the neophytes abroad that it is no big deal and everything will be "updated" o "converted" after they "complete your 90 day probationary period"
http://www.esl-jobs-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=14115#14115
They need to start fining and deporting the people who tell others to come to China to work on an L visa for things to change. I recall the first time I had a visa problem and complained, I was told almost directly, that if I made a stink about it, the PSB would be notified and I'd be on my way home without pay in less than 2 weeks! |
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The_Kong
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| RWA1981 wrote: |
Yes, but you are assuming that people know they are breaking the law when they come here on L, or F visas to work. Remember, most of these recruiters and agents are telling all the neophytes abroad that it is no big deal and everything will be "updated" o "converted" after they "complete your 90 day probationary period" |
Nope, if you think you can work on a tourist visa, as opposed to say, I don't know...a work visa. Your an idiot. The information is extremely easy to come across from a simple google search or looking up any site that has information about visas.
I can see how some people may be duped by a business visa, however the same information about whether or not you can work on one is readily available.
I think the people that come on one are either A) Idiots B) Making a calculated bet that they won't get caught and/or their school is honest and will convert it.
But just like any gambler will tell ya, sometimes ya lose.
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| They need to start fining and deporting the people who tell others to come to China to work on an L visa for things to change. I recall the first time I had a visa problem and complained, I was told almost directly, that if I made a stink about it, the PSB would be notified and I'd be on my way home without pay in less than 2 weeks! |
Couldn't agree more, accept for the fact that I don't think a country would deport it's own citizens. |
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