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WILL I GET IN TROUBLE???

 
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lovesand



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 11:12 am    Post subject: WILL I GET IN TROUBLE??? Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone can help me out with an answer.

I am working in China on a Z visa, and I have been offered the chance to do some part time work in a city close to where my main place of employment is (PT=2-3 saturdays a month).

If I take the PT job is there any way my employer could find out through my taxes (my employer pays my taxes and the PT employer will be paying taxes for those 3 days every month, salary for those 3 days will be around 3500RMB)

Is it a matter of keeping low and not pissing anyone off??

Thanks
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your PT employer might ruffle some feathers by paying taxes for an employee that doesn't officially work for them (if that's what they really plan on doing, I'm skeptical). Seems there's going to be a paper trail where one shouldn't exist, which isn't really keeping low. There are easier ways for a part time employer to pay you. And the place you work for, the one that got you the residence permit (you do have one of those in your passport, right?) does your contract with them say anything about part time work elsewhere? It should.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, something is fishy here. You can only legally work for the employer who sponsored your visa. By working for another company, you are breaking the terms of the contract with your employer and Chinese law.

Do people do it? Absolutely. But you could get in trouble with your employer and the government if discovered. In fact, the government has been doing more to search for such abuses.

If your new part employer will also be paying taxes I would have to surmise one of only two things.

1, They are ben dans (idiots).

2. They are intent to pocket some of your money.

Probably the second. Which in my book would be reason enough to avoid them altogether if this is the case.

Cheers,
Jim
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davelister



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to reiterate what has already been said; your employer for your part time work will not register you as an employee and will not be paying taxes from your wages. You may well be deducted a 'tax amount', but the tax man won't see it. This happens in my place of work with illegal part time workers getting 'taxed', but I wouldn't want it any other way with the rest of us being legally hired and paying tax amounts.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davelister wrote:
Just to reiterate what has already been said; your employer for your part time work will not register you as an employee and will not be paying taxes from your wages. You may well be deducted a 'tax amount', but the tax man won't see it. This happens in my place of work with illegal part time workers getting 'taxed', but I wouldn't want it any other way with the rest of us being legally hired and paying tax amounts.


Well said. Personally I would hold out for the pre-tax amount. Your travel time and expense and your butt on the line if you get caught. They are not paying you benefits nor tax to the government. The new social insurance from school to government alone for a teacher (and never refundable like the 10% or so for the teacher) is about 34% of gross salary. BTW, talk about a wage suppressor! Looks like the government has found a good way to profit off the foreign teacher too.
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scratchpiece27



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lovesand



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the input.

All this has got me thinking. How can teachers that have full time jobs, work for the British Council as examiners on the weekend and get away with it????
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