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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience is that ECs are open to all and you get wildly varying attendances.
In Semester 1 the freshers all turn out because of the novelty. You can get 60+ to these.
As they get BFs and the weather is colder - maybe 20 attendees.
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem with letting student's choose topics is you will get the same boring topics everytime.

Food
travel[WITHIN CHINA ONLY]
School

Student's know nothing about the world outside of their studies, or some clique boring Korean cartoon or gaming.

'Name ten countries in Africa.'

*blank stare*
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LarssonCrew wrote:
Problem with letting student's choose topics is you will get the same boring topics everytime

So what? EC is for the benefit of students, not the FT. If they choose the topic, regardless of how boring you think it is, and they're using some English where's the problem? I show up at English corner now and again and if I don't like the topic, I just talk about something else. It's really not that difficult.
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I ever heard was much like the sounds that come from Charlie Browns Mother....good grief the regretful audio of 60 students making sounds from a trombone
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my college the EC is planned by the students.
The EC is on Friday evenings, but by Wednesday of every week the students
have posted the topics and the song for the EC.
I do not go to the EC often, but when I do it is easy to kill an hour when many of the students are holding a paper with the topics and songs listed.

The topics are typically such things as "future jobs", "describe your future husband or wife", "what would you do if you were the leader of China" , etc.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogerwilco wrote:
At my college the EC is planned by the students.
The EC is on Friday evenings, but by Wednesday of every week the students
have posted the topics and the song for the EC.
I do not go to the EC often, but when I do it is easy to kill an hour when many of the students are holding a paper with the topics and songs listed.

The topics are typically such things as "future jobs", "describe your future husband or wife", "what would you do if you were the leader of China" , etc.


I've encountered this student-sponsored type before and I tend to call them English Clubs - rather than Corners which I feel are the school- sponsored ones.
When using the downloadable set mentioned above, the fave questions are always those related to personal relationships.- 'What makes a good BF/GF?' and the like
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msinglynx



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done similar style english corners and they are helllllll.... My fall back move is to pick a straight forward topic (like travel), start with some greetings, jokes, ask about their week, introduce the topic, etc, then give the simple vocabulary and sentence structure, throw in some more complicated vocab and structure for the higher level ones (maybe 20 minutes for this, tops). Finally spend the last 35 minutes role playing this. It breaks up the mass into manageable groups, you can have better ones assisting the poor students and give them individual topics that are of more interest to that group.

I also like to start every new class with a short speech on personal responsibility and remind each student that learning is THEIR responsibility and that seeing me once a week will actually have barely any effect. I state specifically that it is impossible for me to satisfy all of them because every student has different needs. that means they HAVE to make the effort to find vocabulary words that are specific to their needs. The students can only agree with you because this is completely reasonable, they just havent thought about it like this. Students, especially adults, have specific goals. You can be a "teacher" and talk at them (shoving their goals at them), or you can be their partner in education and help THEM reach their goals. I find treating them as active participants in their education leads to more enthusiasm and independent study and overall better attitudes.
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Bud Powell



Joined: 11 Jul 2013
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

msinglynx wrote:

I also like to start every new class with a short speech on personal responsibility and remind each student that learning is THEIR responsibility and that seeing me once a week will actually have barely any effect. I state specifically that it is impossible for me to satisfy all of them because every student has different needs. that means they HAVE to make the effort to find vocabulary words that are specific to their needs. The students can only agree with you because this is completely reasonable, they just havent thought about it like this. Students, especially adults, have specific goals. You can be a "teacher" and talk at them (shoving their goals at them), or you can be their partner in education and help THEM reach their goals. I find treating them as active participants in their education leads to more enthusiasm and independent study and overall better attitudes.


Good approach to teaching anywhere.
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