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The skinny on saving in KSA
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:47 am    Post subject: The skinny on saving in KSA Reply with quote

As I've been looking over the site, it seems most go to KSA to save money. But I'd like to talk about this in more detail. Assuming that people are spending about $1,000 a month from their salaries:

It seems like with rough ride recruiter/ contractor , one might be able to save $24,000-$30,000 a year after all the shenanigans. If they catch you in one of there various traps, you might end up saving $17,000-$20,000.

With direct hire universities, depending on qualifications, it seems like people can save between $36,000- $45,000 a year.

With the military contracts, one may be able to save between $50,000-$$70,000 a year.

Please let me know what you think or know.
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lcanupp1964



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a direct hire at a university, I can easily save between $50,000 - $55,000 USD a year, but I spend around 5,000 bucks during the summer break, so let's say an even 50 grad per year that I can put into my bank back home. I don't have a family (no wife/kids to support), nor any bills in the states, so keep that in mind. With a family, one might be able to save around 30,000 USD per year as a direct hire.

I have noticed salaries in the Kingdom are getting lower (even though KFUPM had an increase to its min. salary) and lower each year. Supply and demand. I have seen the same thing happen in the ESL field in Japan during the late 1980's and early 1990's. I was there for three years during that golden time.
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lcanupp1964 wrote:
As a direct hire at a university, I can easily save between $50,000 - $55,000 USD a year, but I spend around 5,000 bucks during the summer break, so let's say an even 50 grad per year that I can put into my bank back home. I don't have a family (no wife/kids to support), nor any bills in the states, so keep that in mind. With a family, one might be able to save around 30,000 USD per year as a direct hire.


I imagine your working with a salary that incoming teachers are probably not able to receive, and also receive a cost of living raise every year. What would you imagine that math would be like for others?
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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to make a new thread with the following title, (but it seems appropriate here):

Signs your co-workers have joined the "500 club"

(edit: that is 'do not spend over 500 RIYALS a month')

1- There is never any toilet paper (or liquid soap) in the school restrooms...but I swear....it was stocked at the beginning of the week!

2- The community water cooler suspiciously goes from 2/3 full to empty on Thursdays

3- certain individuals only ever attend functions when free food/drink is on hand

4- The local shwarma delivery service visits villas more often than the mailman

Laughing


I think Ican represents a good overall average.

So many things to factor in beyond salary and other perks (internet, phone, utility bills, fuel, etc.)

- frequency of vacations,
- 5 star, 3 star (or lower) vacations,
- personal goals,
- daily habits (diet),
- dependents + debts
- extra income (investments, p/t work, online work, etc.)

If pressed, I'd guess the overall national average is right around 40,000 USD for any given year.

Obviously there are those who do much better than that.

Also (it should be obvious) Saudi has "the lifers," "the short-termers," and the ones in between - and that planned for stint has a lot of bearing on how much one saves each month.
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really appreciate the information.
@cnthaikasrok that 500 club is funny!
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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yasuke wrote:
@cnthaikasrok that 500 club is funny!


Yeah, it's REAL funny, till you gotta' take a c**p at work!

Laughing Surprised
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dependant wife/wives and children cost money. Many KSA TEFLERs spend a lot in vacation periods. Maintaining or buying a home outside KSA can be a real expense. Of course some dispense with that luxury or go down the route of letting out their property in the Homeland.

A lot take to the SERIOUS worship of Mammon and end up trapped in the 500 Club mentality.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope it's not single ply!
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cnthaiksarok wrote:
Yasuke wrote:
@cnthaikasrok that 500 club is funny!


Yeah, it's REAL funny, till you gotta' take a c**p at work!

Laughing Surprised


Understood, but away games are always tough.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: The skinny on saving in KSA Reply with quote

Yasuke wrote:
As I've been looking over the site, it seems most go to KSA to save money.

However, what people can or intend to save doesn't always reflect the reality of what they actually do save. It's all relative. What matters is how much you, Yasuke, personally expect to save based on your own goals/priorities and the salary being offered.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Hope it's not single ply!

too right... get twice as much usage out of double ply.

To save seriously, I think you either have to be here very short term (1-2 years) or long term (over 5 years).

Why?

Well you can hack skimping on holiday expenses when you only have two years to keep your head down and get through it.

But if you want to keep yourself sane for a 5 year + period of time, you're going to have to pace yourself. And that means nice holidays to keep yourself sane for the long term.

Oh... and buying a car is a big up front expense if you want one that you would survive an accident here in.

So, best to have conservative saving targets, meet those and then feel good rather than aim high and not hit the target.

And what you do with all that money also makes a big difference. Sticking it in the bank is absolutely not the right thing to do with it if you want your savings to be worth anything when you finally pull out back to normality.
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cultofpersonality



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've met far too many members of the 500 club and I've even lived with one. I rarely knew the guy yet he felt the need to take my food as if it belonged to him and I didn't exist. He was on some serious hustle. I had to confront him and tell him that we earn the same. Saudi attracts those that are very desperate to erase the outstanding loans they have accumulated for one reason or the other.

Let's just say you can save a good portion of your salary in Saudi Arabia. The cost of living is cheap!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aiming to save US$4,000, ie SR15,000 a month is a bit unrealistic. You need a LIFE !! Unless that is you wish to surrender to the demands of the 500 Club Regime !
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bigdurian



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I always aim to save 10,000 SAR a month, but I do have a wife and two kids here with me as well. As someone else said, they cost money, and holidays play a part too. A week boozing in Bahrain can soon put a hole in your savings that month.
One of the nice things about being here for me is not having to worry too much about what things cost. Some people beat themselves up about the price of a taxi. You might as well enjoy yourself a bit while you're here and that normally involves spending a bit of cash.
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psychedelicacy



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Assuming that people are spending about $1,000 a month from their salaries:


Unlikely you'll spend that much in Saudi. I spend that in Qatar, which is not only a bit more expensive than Saudi but also has bars and nightclubs. If you include holidays and divide those costs by 12 months, then certainly your costs go up, but $1,000 is 3,750 SAR, and I fail to see why someone would spend that much per month in Saudi. Saudi Arabia is likely to be the cheapest place you've ever seen.
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