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Thor3K



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:32 am    Post subject: Final Exit Queries Reply with quote

Hey guys.

First off, sorry if my questions come across as silly, but despite having spent hours trying to find answers online as well as face to face from my company, I still haven't received any straight forward answers! (unbelievable but true and I'll be writing an in depth review of my "experience", which will appear on this forum in a few weeks).

1) I'm due to leave KSA in a couple of weeks on a final exit visa, my company has told me that my visa is "ready". They've told me that I should be receiving some kind of "print out" with a stamp on it. Question is, do I actually need this piece of paper to leave the kingdom? (I'm not interested in ever returning). Will I actually be stopped from leaving without this print out?

2) When I get to the airport, what do I actually do? How do I surrender my Iqama? Does the airline do this? Or do I need to visit an immigration office or something? Do I need a letter from my bank to confirm that I owe no debts (some colleagues have told me that I don't, and that this is all "on the system" now, but they have only heard that second-hand). Do I need any other paperwork at the airport? How easy is this process? Should I expect any problems as long as my exit visa is in order?

3) It's unbelievable that I can't actually find this information online (in English anyway), but does anyone know if there's a "limit" for money exchange in Riyadh Airport? Would I be okay changing 50,000 SR to British Pounds? How is the exchange rate at Riyadh airport?

If I do have problems in Riyadh, can I change Saudi Riyal's in Dubai or London?


- Guys, thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Watch this space for a review of my year here which includes the good (A.K.A. money), the bad and the ugly (no shortage of material).

Thanks!
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cultofpersonality



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need the final exit visa to leave the country. You can be stopped!

At the airport, all you need to do is hand in your Iqama. Do not hand in the final exit. It is necessary if you wish to apply for another job in Saudi within a year or two (not quite sure on the length). You don't need any authorisation from the banks.

You can change your Riyals in the UK. The airport offers a decent exchange rate but whether they have 9,000 British pounds available is a different matter completely.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cultofpersonality wrote:
At the airport, all you need to do is hand in your Iqama.

Unless things have changed from a year ago, you hand over your iqama to the employer/sponsor in exchange for your final exit visa. That was my experience when I left.
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Rostom



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Final Exit Queries Reply with quote

Thor3K wrote:
1) I'm due to leave KSA in a couple of weeks on a final exit visa, my company has told me that my visa is "ready". They've told me that I should be receiving some kind of "print out" with a stamp on it. Question is, do I actually need this piece of paper to leave the kingdom? (I'm not interested in ever returning). Will I actually be stopped from leaving without this print out?
2) When I get to the airport, what do I actually do? How do I surrender my Iqama? Does the airline do this? Or do I need to visit an immigration office or something? Do I need a letter from my bank to confirm that I owe no debts (some colleagues have told me that I don't, and that this is all "on the system" now, but they have only heard that second-hand). Do I need any other paperwork at the airport? How easy is this process? Should I expect any problems as long as my exit visa is in order?


You need to have the final exit visa stamped on your passport, and you have to surrender your Iqama to your employer before you can leave the Magic Kingdom.

"An immigration official from King Khaled International Airport in Riyadh said that obtaining a final exit visa alone does not qualify an expatriate worker to leave the country for good.
“Our system should show that his residency permit (iqama), which is an official government document, is returned to the regional passport department to enable authorities to send the person from the airport ,” he said"
"A teacher from a prestigious school in Riyadh was turned back last week for not surrendering their iqama to the Passports Department despite having their final-exit visa issued online. The teacher had already checked into the airline’s reservation system and his baggage was also sent to the flight."
http://www.arabnews.com/news/511136


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3) It's unbelievable that I can't actually find this information online (in English anyway), but does anyone know if there's a "limit" for money exchange in Riyadh Airport? Would I be okay changing 50,000 SR to British Pounds? How is the exchange rate at Riyadh airport?

If I were you, I will exchange the money with one of the exchange offices like Al-Rajhi before you go to the airport, because you will get better exchange rate.

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If I do have problems in Riyadh, can I change Saudi Riyal's in Dubai or London?

The rate will be very high compared to the rate in the Magic Kingdom.
Also, make sure that you have to declare your cash if it is 10,000 euros or more at any UK or EU airport.
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cultofpersonality



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only things I exchanged with my employer for a final exit were my medical cards etc.

There must be different ways of doing this. I still needed my Iqama to deposit my final settlement into my bank account. I am sure others in my company handed in their Iqama to the visa official at the airport.
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Thor3K



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all!

As always in the Kingdom, chaos and confusion reigns. I read about the sudden "changes" back in January/February with regards to submitting the Iquama 30 days before, teachers were apparently turned back for about a week (as reported in Arab News), but it appears that the changes caused so much chaos on such an industrial scale, that immigration quietly rescinded the changes after a week or two.

My company (Interlink) have only asked for my medical card, they're telling me to surrender my Iquama at the airport ... at least one teacher from our site has already departed by submitting his Iquama at the airport. I guess this is a good sign right? I haven't been told anything about a stamp in my passport. I have my own passport so a stamp won't be happening, man, I really do hope that this is just a matter of different ways of doing things ...

I was just quoted an exchange rate of 7.34 to GBP at the Post Office in the UK. It looks like changing money at somewhere like Tahweel Al Rajhi is a much better option. I understand that the US Dollar is fixed at 3.75, I wonder if it might even be worth changing to USD then to GBP in the UK ...
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thor3K wrote:
My company (Interlink) have only asked for my medical card, they're telling me to surrender my Iquama at the airport ... at least one teacher from our site has already departed by submitting his Iquama at the airport. I guess this is a good sign right? I haven't been told anything about a stamp in my passport. I have my own passport so a stamp won't be happening, man, I really do hope that this is just a matter of different ways of doing things ...

It may just depend on the employer---mine was a direct-hire employer and not a contracting company.
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cultofpersonality



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7.34 Riyals to 1GBP....Sweet Jesus! In my day, which wasn't too long ago it rarely was 6 Riyals to a pound.
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Rostom



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thor3K wrote:
I understand that the US Dollar is fixed at 3.75, I wonder if it might even be worth changing to USD then to GBP in the UK ...

Not recommended.
Better change to GBP.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the transfer through a bank. Do NOT wait until you get to the airport. There are limits on how much cash you can take with you unless you declare it and I imagine that could be a mega-hassle. All Western countries now require passengers with more than 10,000 (Euros or £s) to declare at Customs on arrival ON PAIN OF CONFISCATION !

System with Iqama is that your employer or sponsor applies for an exit visa and SURRENDERS your Iqama to the Passport office. You get a chitty, and a stamp in your passport. That is what you need to leave. Get it checked before you head to the airport.

A good employer would explain all that to you. I take it your employer is of the other variety. As many including myself have advised here CHOOSE YOUR MASTERS WITH CARE.


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Thor3K



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money exchange houses such as Tahweel Al Rajhi seem to offer an exchange rate about 6.40 to the GBP.

scot47 wrote:
System with Iqama is that your employer or sponsor applies for an exit visa and SURRENDERS your Iqama to the Passport office. You get a chitty, and a stamp in your passport. That is what you need to leave. Get it checked befoprfe you head top the airport.

A good employer would explain all that to you. I take it your emplolyer is of the other variety. As many including myself have advised here CHOOSE YOUR MASTERS WITH CARE.


My employer is not great, you guessed it. I'm due to leave in 2 weeks and I'm based more than 1200 KM from "the office". Whenever I ask via email about the exit procedure, they tell me that things have changed, that my exit visa is "ready", there's no stamp in the passport, its just a "print out", and that I have to surrender the Iquama at the airport. I really just don't know what to do or what to believe, help! Has anybody left on a final exit in the last few months?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thor3K wrote:
I'm due to leave in 2 weeks and I'm based more than 1200 KM from "the office". Whenever I ask via email about the exit procedure, they tell me that things have changed, that my exit visa is "ready", there's no stamp in the passport, its just a "print out", and that I have to surrender the Iquama at the airport. I really just don't know what to do or what to believe, help! Has anybody left on a final exit in the last few months?

If the company is telling you your exit visa is ready, you need to find out when/where you can go pick it up from them or when it will be delivered to you. And apparently, you can turn in your iqama at the airport. Nothing special to do.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your employer is responsible for making sure that you leave. Procedures vary and may have changed since I made my Final Exit in 2011. Ask for clarification of what you have to do. Maybe even go and ask at the local "Jawazat". Take an Arabic speaker with you, preferably a high status Saudi (one of your students ?)

Most towns of any size have a "Saraf" or moneychanger. Al-Rajhi is the biggest but there are others. Check out what they an do for you in terms of remitting your money or selling you foreign currency.

Was there no one in the job who could show you the ropes and explain things like remitting and iqama procedures ?

Each time I left on "Final Exit" (1972 and 1991 and again 1996 and then 2004 and final final exit in 2011), procedures were different. You need someone to help you out locally and not on some anonymous forum.
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Rostom



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thor3K wrote:
Whenever I ask via email about the exit procedure, they tell me that things have changed, that my exit visa is "ready", there's no stamp in the passport, its just a "print out", and that I have to surrender the Iquama at the airport. I really just don't know what to do or what to believe, help! Has anybody left on a final exit in the last few months?

Thor3K, you can check the status of your visa by using the E-service of the Ministry of Interior, you need to put your iqama number, sponsor number (get it from your employer), and passport number. To do this, use the following link:
http://www.moi.gov.sa/wps/portal/moi/eservices/public/passports/er-status/!ut/p/b1/04_SjzQ0NjI2tzC0MDPWj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOJNnQOcPS18jQ3dA0LNDYzczE28nM28LdwNTPSDU_P0c6McFQHeTU5B/

Please let us know about the output.

You might need to register to use the system:
http://www.moi.gov.sa/wps/portal/passports/!ut/p/b1/04_SjzQ0NjI2tzC0MDPWj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOLd_cKCjd09jA39fUxcDDx9TcxD_IO9jJ1NzPWDU_P0c6McFQFVZIUz/
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eslteacher2014



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my friends left on a final exit ( Khuruj Niyaha) this past January 2014. According to him, he told me that his employer let him keep his iqama, but when he was leaving at immigration the immigration officials asked for and confiscated his iqama.

However this was 6 months ago, so things might have changed, lol.

It might be a good idea to go with an arabic speaker to the jawazat office and confirm this.
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