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fat_chris



Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PO1 wrote:
If your main focus in life is to get constant upward mobility with your own career, you'd probably be better off in other countries. However, people I know who have done well in Japan tend to:

a. have good Japanese skills and manage to get jobs other than English teaching.
b. get directly hired by a university or business.
c. know their limitations/aspirations and work within those confines.
d. have other interests that keep them rooted here outside of work.

You can only be trapped if you get into that mentality. Finding ways to make the most of your time here (traveling, learning new things, enjoying the culture) can prevent that from happening.


+1

These are really sounds words from PO1さん. Options c. and d. listed above are definitely key.

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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mitsui



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 1562
Location: Kawasaki

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat Chris or Vince, what do you think about Teach Memphis?
I wonder if teaching while getting certified would be too much,
and if it would be better to get certified first and then teach in the US.
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Maitoshi



Joined: 04 May 2014
Posts: 718
Location: 何処でも

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PO1 wrote:
Pitarou wrote:
mitsui wrote:
You will not get trapped if your wife can live in your country and if there are opportunities there.

You would think so, wouldn't you. But I've heard many a sad, bitter tale, both face-to-face and on this forum, where things didn't work out that way.

I wish you all the best, but I won't be astonished if you find yourself moving back to Japan because your wife just can't adjust to life in the States.


I've heard this a lot, unfortunately. That's why it's always best to have long, in-depth (I'm talking 8 hours long) conversations about where you each want to be in life before ever, ever considering getting married. This means if you plan on having children, what do you want from your career, if there is a chance of returning to your home country, etc. Things have turned out swimmingly for me so far, but I've heard my fair share of horror stories.

If your main focus in life is to get constant upward mobility with your own career, you'd probably be better off in other countries. However, people I know who have done well in Japan tend to:

a. have good Japanese skills and manage to get jobs other than English teaching.
b. get directly hired by a university or business.
c. know their limitations/aspirations and work within those confines.
d. have other interests that keep them rooted here outside of work.

You can only be trapped if you get into that mentality. Finding ways to make the most of your time here (traveling, learning new things, enjoying the culture) can prevent that from happening.


Even with plenty of talking before marriage and a long engagement, people's thoughts and feelings change over time, particularly after having kids. Priorities that were once paramount somehow don't seem as important as they once were.
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Vince



Joined: 05 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsintodreams wrote:
That's perhaps good advice for the most part but some of the things you said are simply hot true 100% of the time.

The majority of people I've met who work in a Japanese company DON'T have N1. They all had N2 though.

Secondly, one of my close friends went straight into a position he wanted at a company.

Thirdly, many of the people I've met who work for Japanese companies have no global business experience and very little knowledge in that field as far as I'm aware.

It certainly wouldn't be true 100% of the time. It's more a matter of the career field, your aspirations, and how much you're willing to put into being the standout candidate.
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