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G Cthulhu
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| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
| Anyway, oil. Unnecessary plastic consumption is a waste of oil. |
You're argument is irrational at best a a simple tautology at worst: the oil will be consumed anyway. Is it "better" to have it consumed as petrol instead?
As far as plastic bags are concerned, I remember reading many moons ago an article that looked at the total life cycle footprint of plastic bags vs paper bags. The plastic bags had a lower economic and environmental footprint. |
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Black_Beer_Man
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Location: Yokohama
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Information on plastic. You may not agree with the uploader's philosophies, but the info in this video seems to be correct.
http://youtu.be/8y99xB3Ga0s |
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Pitarou
Joined: 16 Nov 2009
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Location: Narita, Japan
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| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
Information on plastic. You may not agree with the uploader's philosophies, but the info in this video seems to be correct.
http://youtu.be/8y99xB3Ga0s |
Here's the original video:
http://vimeo.com/100694882
Black Beer Man's link is the same, but with 45 seconds of annoying crap added at the beginning and end by some "Anonymous" geek who's trying to take credit for it.
My response to the video:
1. Most of the problems listed are a problem of littering, not plastic per se. If this video convinces people to handle their waste responsibly, then I guess that's a good thing.
2. The use of exfoliating micro-beads in skincare products is a problem, because they just got washed down the drain and aren't filtered by sewage treatment. In 2011, Procter & Gamble, Unilever, Colgate Palmolive, and L'Oreal promised to stop using them, but many of these products remain on the shelves. This looks like a matter for legislation.
3. The claims about toxic additives have been assessed by regulatory agencies around the world. The overwhelming consensus is that the doses are far, far too low to be of any concern for human health, and given the enormous benefits that plastics give us, we should continue to use them as normal. (As a precautionary measure, the FDA has mandated that BPA be removed from baby's milk bottles.)
4. The idea that a cloth or paper bag is better than a plastic bag is based on a very, very one-sided analysis. Cloth and paper also contain tiny doses of potentially harmful chemicals, cause harm as litter, and consume our earth's resources, just like plastic does. On most bases for comparison, plastic comes out as the best option. |
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