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Why are the Japanese amazed by everything?
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AgentMulderUK



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Why are the Japanese amazed by everything? Reply with quote

I just wonder, does it drive anyone else nuts when Japanese people on TV seem continually amazed by anything.

"It's a fish!! SUGOI!!!"
"That's a really big carrot"
and outbursts of
"Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" at the slightest thing.

Their jaws seem to drop in amazement for any reason at all, however mundane! Know what I mean?
Confused Smile

Half-seriously, I started to wonder if it's because maybe they have such uneventful and repetitive lives, but that's justs sounds like I'm being cynical..........
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kamome



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Why are the Japanese amazed by everything? Reply with quote

AgentMulderUK wrote:
and outbursts of
"Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" at the slightest thing.
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That really freaked me out when I first came here. Now I find I do it myself all the time. A half hearted "ehhhhhhhhhhh" is a great way of feigning interest/pretending to pay attention when you're not actually listening (I used this technique every day when I was at NOVA).

Agree on overuse of the word "sugoii". And don't get me started on "oishii" and "kowaii".............
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Mike L.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the average Japanese life and there's your answer!
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee Mike... Confused I met some Japanese whose lives made me go
eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh they were so extreme. For starters, where else can you find professional hobby-ists?

Just cos they utter sugoi or oishii or eeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhh doesn't mean that's what they think - that's just what they say. You should have realised by now that what a Japanese says and thinks are almost always on two different planets, hence the similarities of everyone's responses and the general lack of adjectives in the langauge for daily use.
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Celeste



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japanese does seem to have relatively few adjectives, but a wealth of specific nouns. (I am thinking of all the titles I know that mean some level of middle manager)

I asked a Japanese friend of mine about the fake excitement on tv thing and she told me that most of these programmes (cooking shows, travel shows, home reno shows, etc) were little more than infomercials and that the responses of the hosts were scripted and paid for by the sponsor companies. She is a bit of an intellectual and the principal of a school that I work at and she strongly encouraged me not to waste my time watching this drivel. I told her I wanted to improve my Japanese, and she said to me that I shouldn't do it by trying to sound like an idiot on tv. ( She speaks really good English and has quite a way with words.)
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Celeste wrote:
I told her I wanted to improve my Japanese, and she said to me that I shouldn't do it by trying to sound like an idiot on tv.


Glad I'm not the only one who thinks they look like idiots.

I too am amazed at how similar Japanese people's responses are to things.

Shmooj, you're right. Their thinking does not equal their speaking. How often do you hear honest replies?
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty much in agreement with the last few posts. I for one find most Japanese TV to be painful, although I do enjoy occasional dramas. Strangely, I also often like the various SMAP programs. I've definitely been here too long.
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ryuro



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey all,

No offense shcmooj, but I like Mike L.'s comment about the typical Japanese life.

However, to be fair my home country (US of George W Bush A) has been in the throws (or should I say gutter) of reality TV mania for the better part of a decade now.

It's truly sad when you go home to visit and you can't even join in a converstaion because you haven't seen a single episode of 'Surburban Survivor' or whatever banal incarnation they're currently on.

When a society has 'evolved' (or should it be 'devolved'?) to the point where they've nothing better to do than to sit around and watch other people's "reality" on TV rather than going out and living their own reality- I say bring on the asteriods, plagues and poison monkey's! It's time for a global catastrophe to re-set our priorities.

Sorry, just a little tangent rant there.

Cheers,
ryuro

PS. the only redeeming show on US TV, IMO, is the Simpsons.

PPS. I AM NOT a George W Bush supporter!
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sidjameson



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talking of responses. Anybody else have the experience of telling a story to a Japanese person and for them to go Eeeeeeeh way before you even get to the interesting fun part. I find it really disconcerting especially when I know that language ability is definitly not the issue.

"yesterday I got up"
"Eeeeeeeeh"
"went to the station"
"eeeeeeeeeeeeh"
"and the station had been blown up"
"Eeeeeh"
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When your hobbies are "sleeping" and "driving car", I imagine even the most trivial thing would elicit a deep, gutteral "SUGOII!".
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]
However, to be fair my home country (US of George W Bush A) has been in the throws (or should I say gutter)
Quote:

You should say neither ryuro; you should say `throes`
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saying either throws or throes will be OK. It's the writing which presents a problem.
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Ailian



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guest of Japan wrote:
I'm pretty much in agreement with the last few posts. I for one find most Japanese TV to be painful, although I do enjoy occasional dramas. Strangely, I also often like the various SMAP programs. I've definitely been here too long.

SMAP? Please, turn off your television at the slightest hint of those shows! Wink

Most Japanese television is indeed horrid, but there are some rare exceptions (Trick, anyone?).


Also, "interrupting" a sentence at each pause is sort of a "I am listening and comprehending what you are saying" thing. I remember being on the phone with my boss once; she was ranting nonstop about someone's faults or whatnot and midway through her speech I blanked out and forgot to utter the requisite "hai" or "ee" every five seconds, which caused her to burst out with, "Are you there?!" Hmph.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Mike L, Agent and Ryuro ... you must all simply have the most boring Japanese friends around.

I had a great bunch of friends and mundane and boring they certainly weren't. Routine they may have had, but interesting routine.

What you have posted here proves that Japan works and that, for you at least, sakoku is still in force. At least I made it to Dejima.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ailian wrote:

Also, "interrupting" a sentence at each pause is sort of a "I am listening and comprehending what you are saying" thing. I remember being on the phone with my boss once; she was ranting nonstop about someone's faults or whatnot and midway through her speech I blanked out and forgot to utter the requisite "hai" or "ee" every five seconds, which caused her to burst out with, "Are you there?!" Hmph.

Earth to Ailian... leave the country.... now. Over.

Rolling Eyes
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