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School refusing to pay airfare as promised in contract
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Riff Raff



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Powell wrote:


I've NEVER seen an FT handed cash for the return flight home. He is given the actual ticket the day before he leaves.


I have. Every time. CASH. It was in the contract. The school was obligated to pay. It was none of their business as to where you go. As more foreigners have chosen to take the money and stay, more schools have decided to pocket the money themselves.

That you have never experienced it does not mean it is the absolute truth. Wisdom is useful. It is the absolute empiricism that has flaws.

I've never seen a contract that insist you leave or don't get airfare. Thanks for the heads-up. I, for one, would not agree to work if it is beneath me. Return airfare can be used later. I may visit friends throughout Asia after working. It is your choice as to how and when you schedule a flight or not. Peace.


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doogsville



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've worked at both a language mill and a university. The language mill offered a bonus on completion of contract. This was taxable, but if you presented proof of your flight cost, an e-ticket in my case, the equivalent portion of the bonus was not taxed. My current university offers flight reimbursement, up to a fixed amount, on receipt of proof of tickets having been purchased. I've seen a few ads recently for private schools offering end of contract bonuses but no mention of flight reimbursement. Id rather have the bonus personally, since I don't go back to the UK in the holidays, I prefer to travel in South East Asia, but for those people who go back home regularly, does it really matter how it gets paid for, as long as it does? Of course, the flight reimbursement has the advantage of being tax free.
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drjtrekker



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone please tell me how I can collect cash for a plane ticket when I have no intention of going home. I've worked mostly for public universities. Not only have I never seen or heard of cash paid to those not going home and moving on to other Chinese schools,


BUD POWELL...it often seems that you don't have experiences that others have...

6 years in china. two different universities. went home once.
CASH EVERY TIME, until this last school year.
reimbursement now put into monthly paychecks.

I often like Bud's responses...but I got a feeling he doesn't get out as much. Razz
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As 'home' for me is in the Sthn Hemisphere my preferred time to travel home is in the Northern Winter.
Took the school a long time to get their heads around that and I find a general lack of awareness among Chinese of the logistics of international travel.
I've only ever been paid in cash, but have needed to produce some evidence of ticket purchase.
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Riff Raff



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trebek, which city are you in? Chinese are allowed to get emotional.

Depending on where you are, it is illegal for Foreigners to quarrel.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drjtrekker wrote:
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Someone please tell me how I can collect cash for a plane ticket when I have no intention of going home. I've worked mostly for public universities. Not only have I never seen or heard of cash paid to those not going home and moving on to other Chinese schools,


BUD POWELL...it often seems that you don't have experiences that others have...

6 years in china. two different universities. went home once.
CASH EVERY TIME, until this last school year.
reimbursement now put into monthly paychecks.

I often like Bud's responses...but I got a feeling he doesn't get out as much. Razz


NOPE. Never seen it in a PUBLIC university. Everywhere I've taught the school adheres to the strict meaning of reimbursement. Those who move on to other schools usually use the standard SAFEA "travel allowance" to pay to ship their possessions to the next destination.

One possible reason why my experiences differ from others' is that I don't teach in very large, affluent cities, so budgets are adhered to very closely. When I go home, I am driven to the airport by a school driver, and I am checked in with the help of the FAO (or someone from the office), and my FEC is then requested. At one time, I thought that this was an act of great respect, but it's probably more an assurance that i don't cash in my ticket and move on to parts unknown. (I'm not sure if it's possible to cash in a ticket anymore).

I get the feeling that the Chinese don't get out very much!
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adventuramust



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:57 am    Post subject: no pay, contract violation Reply with quote

Is there any way of filing a complaint? I did not receive my end of contract bonus nor my travel allowance. Yes, I did get a letter of reference, but that was from my department. The office lady is mad as she has to work a bit find new teachers. She tried to do the same to another teacher, but he had the sense to withhold final grades until all his pay was in so he could transfer it before he left China. I guess he had heard about the University. I had not.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep retaining those grades until you have all your reimbursements, is about the only power you have.
Make sure you timetable your assessment and grading so you have one complete spare week before you travel.
And don't be specific about your fly out date.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't doubt that any of those who say they've been paid for a return trip home but didn't return, nor do I doubt that anyone has been paid cash reimbursement for a purchased ticket.

The difference in our experiences probably reflects the differences among our employers. I no longer doubt most of the experiences recounted in this forum. Experiences differ widely and wildly from school to school and area to area. I've had experiences in China that I won't even tell because (even to me) they seem to be outside the realm of all possibility.

I know a guy who was flown to the states and back every summer on the school's dime. I believe it because someone in the FAO's office complained that the school would pay for the FT's plane fare but wouldn't pay for anyone's bus fare to work.

I wonder, though, if schools that refuse to BUY a ticket home (as has been my experience) for a returning FT were private schools or public.
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Chinahere



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my 10 years teaching in government schools, I have been given the agreed amount in my contract for round trip air fare in cash.
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Capt Lugwash



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In four years at govt uni it has been either in cash or in my bank account.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt Lugwash wrote:
In four years at govt uni it has been either in cash or in my bank account.


In public universities, I've gotten cash in reimbursement for flying in, but the school has always bought the ticket out and presented it to me the evening before I left. In addition, I have always been driven to the airport, even when I was returning to the school after the summer break. If the FTs aren't going to their home countries, they receive no ticket. They just get the specified 2,200rmb travel allowance.

The old SAFEA contracts once specified that tickets for FTs were to be purchased through the National Aviation Bureau or some such thing, but I've noticed that the FAOs have been buying them from local travel agencies.

I must be working for cheapskate universities.
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Capt Lugwash



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud

All I can say is that I have simply had to produce my e-ticket.

If they escorted me to the airport (in uni transport) 3.5 hours away I would be chuffed!
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Listerine



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always been paid cash for airfares here at the end of the year. Public university. School gives the option of booking and paying for a requested flight (assuming it's one of the cheaper ones), or the equivalent of a round trip fare if you don't plan to go home based on some fancy calculated combination of the high and low season fares which in my case usually ended up being around 7,000rmb....nice bonus if you're planning on sticking around for the summer. Previous school (also public uni) either booked a round trip ticket through "their" travel agent, or paid (in cash) an additional month's pay if you weren't going to use it.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems most have good experiences.
But, you don't find out about the rip off until you are about to fly and they know they have you over the proverbial.
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