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Capt Lugwash
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: Qualifications to teach in China? |
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This seems to be an emotive subject so I will try to keep it as low key as possible.
What do the forum members believe are the legal (emphasis on legal) requirements for obtaining a Z visa and subsequent FEC and RP for teaching in China?
Please do not troll this thread as I am genuinely interested. |
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The_Kong
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Qualifications to teach in China? |
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| Capt Lugwash wrote: |
This seems to be an emotive subject so I will try to keep it as low key as possible.
What do the forum members believe are the legal (emphasis on legal) requirements for obtaining a Z visa and subsequent FEC and RP for teaching in China?
Please do not troll this thread as I am genuinely interested. |
We keep seeing the same question over and over because there is no one answer.
China is a huge country and different areas have different regulations (or interpretation of regulations).
Your question needs to be changed a little, how about "What are the minimum requirements I need to have to get almost any job in China?"
The answer to that question is a bachelor degree, 2 years of post graduate work (teaching) experience, and some sort of TEFL/CELTA certificate.
If you have all 3 of the above you'll have very little problems getting pretty much any job you want (outside of international schools).
Not all schools require the above, but any decent place does. |
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Capt Lugwash
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Therein lies why I posted the question.
Of your three criteria I have but one - a TEFL certificate.
No degree, no teaching experience. Well, four years now but only AFTER I started teaching where I am now.
And I am teaching at a public university with full disclosure on my part and soon will start my fifth year with them.
I have seen many posts lauding the "degree" as being a requirement or "the law" but as it hasn't applied to me I was rather hoping for some concrete information. |
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The_Kong
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Capt Lugwash wrote: |
Therein lies why I posted the question.
Of your three criteria I have but one - a TEFL certificate.
No degree, no teaching experience. Well, four years now but only AFTER I started teaching where I am now.
And I am teaching at a public university with full disclosure on my part and soon will start my fifth year with them.
I have seen many posts lauding the "degree" as being a requirement or "the law" but as it hasn't applied to me I was rather hoping for some concrete information. |
Your not going to find any concrete information.
Even if someone could post a link to the statute that says foreign teachers must have such and such degree/experience etc. it wouldn't matter since obviously it's not followed everywhere in China, as evidenced in your case.
That's why the question I posed is, in my opinion, a much more realistic approach to what your original question is trying to get at. |
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Capt Lugwash
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I am not "trying to get at" anything other than what the law/regulations state.
Yes I know TIC but I see so many jobs advertised with BA preferred/required yet when it boils down to it, what is enough to get the FEC and Rp is really what counts in my experience.
I didn't want to start an argument - and I am not suggesting you are doing so by any means - it was simply another thread has been locked where it was stated the law stipulated a degree and I know it not to be the case because I have none and I have only furnished the truth to the Chinese authorities. At one point after reading on here a couple of years ago (more bull dung) I did have concerns and asked my uni what documents they had used to obtain my permits and they said the ones I had provided.
Ergo, as far as I am concerned, a degree is not a requisite - although some proof of a decent level of education may be. That I have. albeit it is not called a degree and to be honest I don't want it to be. |
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3701 W.119th
Joined: 26 Feb 2014
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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This is getting ridiculous now.
This forum is mostly nonsense. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Capt Lugwash wrote: |
I didn't want to start an argument - and I am not suggesting you are doing so by any means - it was simply another thread has been locked where it was stated the law stipulated a degree and I know it not to be the case because I have none and I have only furnished the truth to the Chinese authorities. At one point after reading on here a couple of years ago (more bull dung) I did have concerns and asked my uni what documents they had used to obtain my permits and they said the ones I had provided.
Ergo, as far as I am concerned, a degree is not a requisite - although some proof of a decent level of education may be. That I have. albeit it is not called a degree and to be honest I don't want it to be. |
If you're adamant about not upgrading your academic qualifications to a BA and possibly completing a basic TEFL cert, then it's unclear what your reason is in asking about the minimum requirements. Are you concerned 1) about the possibility your job and visa status in China will be in jeopardy if certain minimum requirements are enforced; or 2) that others with stronger quals might be hired over you; or 3) that you want to eventually leave your current place of employment for other teaching opportunities in China? Or...? |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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OP this forum is not a striptease.
Progressively unveiling your situation isn't the way to go. Hell, you're more qualified than most!
I hate to flame and try to avoid it, but really! |
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