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waks
Joined: 27 Feb 2013 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:15 pm Post subject: MA in Applied Linguistics vs MA in TESOL/ TEFL |
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Hi,
I've been teaching ESOL/EFL amongst other disciplines for a few years now in the UK. Recently however, I've been considering a change of scenery and am thinking about teaching abroad, preferably in the Middle East.
EFL would be an obvious choice as I hold a Trinity Cert TESOL and a PGCE but I was also looking at pursuing a Masters to improve my chances and to further opportunities for myself but am unsure which would be better: MA in Applied Linguistics or MA in TESOL/ TEFL?
I would be grateful for any thoughts or suggestions on which you would consider to be more beneficial? |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: MA in Applied Linguistics vs MA in TESOL/ TEFL |
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Assuming you expect to teach in a university foundation program in the region, either one will work although the MA TESOL seems to edge out the MA in Applied Linguistics. (If you look at the job ads for the Mid East, a TESOL degree major is usually listed first and more often.) That said, choose whichever program you're most interested in. |
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MsRT
Joined: 25 Nov 2013 Posts: 20
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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There are universities that actually offer combined MA applied linguistics and TESOL...so maybe you could look into that as well. |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: MA in Applied Linguistics vs MA in TESOL/ TEFL |
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waks wrote: |
which would be better: MA in Applied Linguistics or MA in TESOL/ TEFL? |
There have been a couple recent threads where this was discussed:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=105475
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=95138 (around p.4 or so)
Based on those threads, I think the answer is that it varies. Some places (employers/countries/regions) prefer the "practical" or "applied" nature of a TESOL degree, while others value the "theoretical" aspect of an AL degree. Of course, how "applied" or "theoretical" the degree is varies hugely between programs, regardless of what the degree is called.
Since you are talking about the Middle East specifically, you might want to post your question on the general Middle East board or any of the boards for specific countries you are interested in. Nomad soul is knowledgeable about that region, so that advice is worth taking on board. |
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Solar Strength
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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They are the same thing.
Applied Linguistics - British Term
TESOL - American Term.
They cover the same content.
Some schools allow students to choose what they have written on their parchment. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Solar Strenght,
Nope: "Dr. Peter C.
Undergraduate Supervisor, University of Cambridge, Department of Theoretical and Applied Linguistics
They are in essence very different subjects, although occasionally they do overlap.
TESOL is about teaching English to speakers of other languages (TESOL), and that's it. Within TESOL, there are some elements of formal linguistic training (studies of English grammar) and applied linguistic training (second language acquisition). The majority of a TESOL program focuses on materials development and pedagogy for teaching English.
Applied linguistics can be subdivided into language processing, historical linguistics, corpus linguistics, computational linguistics (natural language processing, etc.), semantics, pragmatics, syntax, sociolinguistics, discourse analysis, language assessment, neurolinguistics, speech and language therapy, and first and second (+bilingual or third, fourth) language acquisition, amongst others. While applied linguistics can sometimes focus on the learning of English as a second/foreign language, more often than not it focuses on a wide variety of non-English language learning issues. What is more, in the vast majority of cases, it is has nothing to say about pedagogy.
As someone who has masters degrees in both TESOL and applied linguistics, I have seen both sides of the coin so to speak, and so this is an honest evaluation of the difference between the two."
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/What-s-difference-between-doing-1356867.S.233996526
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"TESOL or Applied Linguistics?
There are so many different types of TESOL related m aster’s degrees that figuring out which one is best for you may be a challenge. Most of the degrees can fall into one of two categories:
MA in TESOL
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This degree focuses on pedagogy.If you are hoping to teach English as a second language to non-English-speaking students in an ESL context, or if you would like to teach in an EFL context,then this degree will give you the proper training and experience to do so.
You should be able to teach students English without knowing the language of the students that you are teaching,but when teaching ESL or EFL it is also beneficial if you know something about the language(s) and culture(s) of your students.
Many colleges that offer an MA in TESOL will also offer state certification to teach ESL in K–12 public schools. This route will require more units to satisfy the requirements that lead to certification and usually involves a semester of student teaching. This would not be necessary for prospective students that already have a teaching credential, are attending the school online, do not live in the same state or country as the school, or have already decided that they would like to teach adults,
MA in applied linguistics.
This degree will usually focus more on theory and language research. The MA in applied linguistics is designed as a first step in a research career
in applied linguistics. It provides both breadth of knowledge in several areas of applied linguistics and the specialized knowledge and skills needed to plan and conduct research in the areas of specialization within a program, such as language acquisition or discourse analysis.
http://www.tesol.org/docs/career-center/tips-for-choosing-a-ma-in-tesol-program---michelle-bagwell-4-9-13.pdf?sfvrsn=2 |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Another (big) difference is that, as a field, Applied Linguistics need not focus on English, nor language teaching/learning at all.
In practice, an MA in TESOL usually focuses more on pedagogy, whereas an MA in Applied Linguistics often focuses more on theory. That said, it really depends on the program, as I've seen TESOL programs that are very theory-heavy, and AL programs that have a strong English teaching focus. |
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Solar Strength
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Dear Solar Strenght,
Nope: "Dr. Peter C.
Undergraduate Supervisor, University of Cambridge, Department of Theoretical and Applied Linguistics
They are in essence very different subjects, although occasionally they do overlap. |
They are the same subject in Australia.
Anyone interested can have a look at Griffith University course list for the two - they are interchangeable with core courses and electives the same.
https://www148.griffith.edu.au/programs-courses/Program/CourseListAndRequirements?programCode=5115&studentType=Domestic#C0000000550
Both Applied Linguistics and TESOL programs include core courses in:
Second Language Acquisition
Second Language Teaching Practice
Second Language Curriculum Development
Where there is a difference, however, is in theoretical linguistics vs Applied Linguistics / TESOL.
Otherwise, you'll find that the programs are either identical or virtually identical.
Also, I'll add that there are M.A. Education programs with a focus in TESOL that also offer courses that overlap with the M.A. TESOL / Applied Linguistics. And then there are those schools that offer an M.Sc in Language Teaching.
Whether the OP elects to take a degree in TESOL or Applied Linguistics, s/he can expect to take the same courses to obtain the degree. |
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Solar Strength
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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rtm wrote: |
That said, it really depends on the program, as I've seen TESOL programs that are very theory-heavy, and AL programs that have a strong English teaching focus. |
rtm, I agree.
It seems to depend on who you ask, the country, and the particular school where the degrees are offered. |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Solar Strength wrote: |
Whether the OP elects to take a degree in TESOL or Applied Linguistics, s/he can expect to take the same courses to obtain the degree. |
While that may be the case at Griffith University (although I don't remember the OP saying he was looking at that program), I can guarantee you that it is not an accurate blanket statement.
It really varies by university and by program. For example, you state that "They are the same subject in Australia.", yet I see that at Macquarie, they have an MA in AL degree, with a general AL track and a TESOL track (and also a LSP track). Half of the courses are a shared core, and the other half are different between the tracks. They are similar, of course, but still quite different.
As I said before, it really varies depending on the program. In general, AL will be more focused on studying how the language is used, while TESOL will be more focused on how it is taught and learned. However that is far from universal, so the only real way to know if a program offers what you want is to look at its content.
More interesting than definitions of AL and TESOL programs, IMHO, is the question of which name employers in different parts of the world prefer.
Last edited by rtm on Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:54 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Solar Strength.
"Anyone interested can have a look at Griffith University course list for the two - they are interchangeable with core courses and electives the same."
These core courses don't look the same to me:
Master of Arts in Applied Linguistics (Research pathway)
Students must complete the following courses:
Semester Course code Course title Credit points
Sem 1 or 2 7267EDN Research Methods in Education 10
Sem 1 or 2 7015EDN Educational Research Design 10
Sem 1 or 2 Listed electives 60
Master of Arts in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL)
Students must complete the following courses:
Sem 1 7902EDN Second Language Acquisition and Learning 10
Sem 1 7903EDN Second Language Teaching in Practice 10
Sem 1 Listed electives 20
Sem 2 7901EDN Linguistics for Second Language Teachers 10
Sem 2 7904EDN Second Language Curriculum Development 10
Sem 2 Listed electives 20
Regards,
John |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Solar Strength wrote: |
It seems to depend on who you ask, the country, and the particular school where the degrees are offered. |
How about none of the above (especially who you ask). I agree with rtm that it's not realistic to generalize about certain degree majors based on one specific university's program offerings. The degree major simply refers to the field of study. What's key, however, is the program curriculum, specifically the learning outcomes.
It's not uncommon for universities to create, revamp, or completely eliminate a degree program to 1) meet the educational and career needs of the students (the "customers"); 2) stay current with trends and research in the field; 3) comply with and maintain accreditation standards; and 4) preserve their academic reputation and ranking. Education is big business---universities are constantly strategizing on ways to attract and retain students. Case in point, my MA in Teaching (MAT) is no longer offered at my alma mater; in its place is an MA in TESL with about 50% of the same core and elective courses. This new degree program was announced as the result of a student survey in addition to the field's increasing popularity worldwide. |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Saigon, Vietnam
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:03 am Post subject: |
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There is no difference between a M.A. in Applied Linguistics and an M.A. TESOL. Both programs typically include the same core and elective courses.
Someone mentioned above what the employers are looking for in a particular context, and I would agree with that.
In sum, however, there is no difference at all between the M.A. Applied Linguistics degree or the M.A. TESOL degree. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Shimokitazawa wrote: |
There is no difference between a M.A. in Applied Linguistics and an M.A. TESOL. Both programs typically include the same core and elective courses. |
How about naming a few universities where this is the case. |
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Shroob
Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 1339
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Shimokitazawa wrote: |
There is no difference between a M.A. in Applied Linguistics and an M.A. TESOL. Both programs typically include the same core and elective courses.
Someone mentioned above what the employers are looking for in a particular context, and I would agree with that.
In sum, however, there is no difference at all between the M.A. Applied Linguistics degree or the M.A. TESOL degree. |
I think this would be better being rephrased as 'There is potentially no difference between an MA AL and MA TESOL'.
It all depends on the modules you choose on the course. They can either be very similar, or totally different.
However, generally I found that they were not the same when I was looking for MAs. AL courses tended to be more corpus, discourse analysis etc. whereas TESOL courses were more classroom realities and teaching focused, understandably. |
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