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Losing Weight & Eating Cheaply in Japan
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:09 pm    Post subject: Losing Weight & Eating Cheaply in Japan Reply with quote

I have two goals; to lose weight and eat cheaply. I am trying to devise some meal plans. I'd like your food suggestions.

I plan to carry a water bottle when I go out filled with tap water or home-made barley tea.

Eating on the run, I think buy a couple of onigiri at a convenience store will ease my hunger just enough.

At home, making dahl curry is cheap and protein rich.

Some veges such as carrots are still affordable on a shoestring budget.

Miso soup mix in those small plastic packets is cheap too.

Any other suggestions?

Of course I have to quit drinking alcohol as that is a luxury.
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some would argue that drinking here is more necessity than luxury, since it is a means of coping with life here.

This being said, if you cannot give up drinking in its entirety, it can be done comparatively cheaply, if you aren't too picky.

There are some very affordable shochus in big 4-liter jugs that mix well into almost anything. A little soda water (StyleOne) and a dash of lemon juice, mixed with ice is an okay compromise on a budget. Monthly cost can be around 3,000¥ if you drink a lot, or less if you imbibe more responsibly.

Lot fewer calories than beer/happoshu/chuhi, as well.

Sorry if I'm a bit of an enabler Wink
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say stock your kitchen well with cheap, healthful food. Make your own onigiri (I cook rice every other day) from genmai-hakumai mix. Genmai is filling and has more nutrition. Miso soup is so easy to make. There are many cheap brands that come in big plastic bags. Those little packets of miso taste like dirt.

Make low-cal okazu side dishes like stir fried moyashi or cabbage. Ponzu is a good flavoring for this.

I make obento four days a week because the bentos at work are bland and have little veg. I put genmai (a smaller portion standard bento) and fill it up with okazu, bought or made.

My roommate used to get a big bottle of Jinro and any cheap citrus and mix her drinks with "tea water" (I keep a container with tap water with charcoal for cooking and drinking).
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lost 10 ponds as a volunteer in Miyagi. It was for five days.
Don`t eat snacks, don't drink beer.

I drove a truck, and loaded and unloaded the truck.

When you are in a rural area, it is healthier since you go to bed early, and get more sleep.
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just remembered a cheap food in Japan. Soba. You can buy the noodles and soup base at 100 yen stores.

When you're out, soba restaurants typically sell a bowl of noodles (Kaki soba) for just 300 yen. That's less than the beef bowl restaurants and healthier.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soba is a good slow carbohydrate. I just had soba, salad and a banana for breakfast.

Black_Beer, do you bike in Yokohama? I visit there now and again, and consider moving there in the next few years. In my hometown I biked 15 km a day to work at an English school. I was in my mid twenties then, and Igot into great shape. I figure I could manage 10km these days.
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try walking to work in the morning before eating breakfast.

40-60 mins of walking before breakfast, then back after work in combination with eating fairly healthily and perhaps 2/3 gym sessions a week will make the fat come off fast.
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of potato chips, edamame or kimchi makes a healthy snack.
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maitoshi wrote:
Some would argue that drinking here is more necessity than luxury, since it is a means of coping with life here.


I agree. Laughing Laughing
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:


Black_Beer, do you bike in Yokohama? I visit there now and again, and consider moving there in the next few years. In my hometown I biked 15 km a day to work at an English school. I was in my mid twenties then, and Igot into great shape. I figure I could manage 10km these days.


I like cycling, but do not own a bicycle at the moment.

TokyoLiz, you may want to reconsider your plan to move to Yokohama. The people who live here are even less friendly than people who live in Tokyo. A friend from my home country made that observation when he visited Tokyo and Yokohama. This opinion is also shared by a Japanese friend of mine.

Furthermore, the city ward tax in Yokohama is among the highest in Japan, a Japanese school teacher here told me. They bleed me for 8000 yen a month.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TokyoLiz, you may want to reconsider your plan to move to Yokohama. The people who live here are even less friendly than people who live in Tokyo. A friend from my home country made that observation when he visited Tokyo and Yokohama. This opinion is also shared by a Japanese friend of mine.


I'm not too worried about more than getting on with neighbours. I live in suburban Chiba where the collective age of my neighbours is about eight centuries. Nice people, and they've seen it all (think flower children with subtitles), but not people to hang out with. I'm now one of the garbage obachans that patrol to catch out violators, and I garden with the best of the gloved and hatted obachans.

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Furthermore, the city ward tax in Yokohama is among the highest in Japan, a Japanese school teacher here told me. They bleed me for 8000 yen a month.


That's considerably lower than my current city tax. Of course, the amount deducted is based on your income... So without discussing income, it is hard to tell if the rate is any different from where I am now (Chiba 'burbs).

One thing I did notice on visits to Yokohama is that people don't bother me there unless I engage them. Maybe it is the transient nature of the gaijin there (military people, for example) that makes Yokohama people leave the gaijin girl alone.

I'm kinda tired here in the Chiba 'burbs of "Nihongo umai, ne!", and "Shushin wa dochira desu ka?". I'm a fluent Japanese speaker and I just want to buy my veggies without the complementary interrogation session. Maybe a more metropolitan area would be good for me.
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz, Ooops! I made an error with the tax figure. Actually, I don't know the tax for this year (I just started living in Yokohama). The tax bill I have is from my previous residence in Kanagawa (and it's over 100 K for the whole year).


The fact remains that that Japanese teacher claims that Yokohama is up at the top for having the highest city taxes in Japan.
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also live in the countryside, TokyoLiz. I usually don't mind the chatting, except when I'm in a hurry. When it becomes too bothersome, I smile and speak rapidly in English. They probably think I'm off my rocker, but it moves things along when I've got to get going 😉
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My annual city tax last year was over Y100,000. I was told that, in Chiba Prefecture, Matsudo City, where I live now, has very high tax. Yokohama would probably be in the same range.

Maitoshi, these days, when people ask me about where I'm from, I say, "You mean my ancestors? Do you know about the Irish famines and the Highland clearances in Scotland?" Cool people look thoughtful and stick around to talk, nosy people get embarrassed and go away.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black_Beer_Man wrote:
Instead of potato chips, edamame or kimchi makes a healthy snack.


I'd not eat that much soy. It is ok now and again, but soy isn't something you should consume a great deal of.

Kimchi though, yes I crush that stuff.

Oh, and I make my own onigiri on occasion. Buying them is just too much for so little. As I need at least 3 to not die of starvation Cool I also don't like to eat that much rice. As a westerner, I feel our systems are not meant to process so much starch and carbs, in such a quantity as the Japanese do.

Costco Peanut butter goes a long way. 1000 or so yen for a big ole tub. Now that is cheap eating!
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