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rxk22



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:20 pm    Post subject: Loggers and ALTs Reply with quote
OK, a bit unrelated to ESL, but it may have an impact

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-06/women-harvesting-trees-meet-two-planks-of-abe-japan-plan.html

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/08/08/business/women-armed-chain-saws-head-hills-abes-growth-plan/#.VAMM1mN0xqM

Abe is trying to bring back forestry back to Japan. Which makes sense, as More than two-thirds of Japan’s roughly 146,000 square miles of land is wooded. This would reduce imports from countries like Indonesia, which have a problem with logging. And also carbon blah blah blah.

That said, this could end up being a $9.5 billion industry, as it was long ago. Now why should we care? This will put sustainable jobs in rural areas. Which means more ALTs, possibly in rural areas. As this would add to the local economies. Meaning there would be more than farming and jobfare.

Especially super rural areas like Hokkaido, and Tohoku would benefit from this.
I dunno, I just like seeing jobs being made that aren't in the blackhole that is Tokyo. As it just sucks in so many people and capital that it is making it hard to buck the low birthrate trend, and Tokyo is the lowest in all of Japan with 1.1 or so.

Also, some of the smaller islands, such as Sato, and Tsushima may benefit from this as well. Be interesting to see if anyone has seen any of this occur, or is it too early? I am in the Tokyo area, so I haven't, and can't see any of the affects.
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Rooster.



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't support it. Japan has done a good job of keeping its nature pristine, this will just ruin it.
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natsume



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rooster. wrote:
I don't support it. Japan has done a good job of keeping its nature pristine, this will just ruin it.


The paved rivers are spotlessly clean and pure! Good job, Japan!
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Between paving the rivers and the coasts. they don't do such a good job.

Thing is, logging can be sustainable. Which would replace the silly pointless construction in the rural areas with sustainable real jobs.

Besides, if Japan doesn't do logging, then essentially they are exporting their pollution and environmental damage.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
rxk22 wrote:
Between paving the rivers and the coasts. they don't do such a good job.

Thing is, logging can be sustainable. Which would replace the silly pointless construction in the rural areas with sustainable real jobs.

Besides, if Japan doesn't do logging, then essentially they are exporting their pollution and environmental damage.


Yes, logging ***CAN*** be sustainable. But it doesn't HAVE to be sustainable. It's more expensive to make it sustainable (think 'tree farms'). When I lived in a rural area, they had logging (I was told that it was winding down when I arrived there, and I was there for three years). It meant 'clear-cutting' and no regrowth strategy to be seen. I think they started replanting on a small scale near the end of my time there, but it was probably a case of too little, too late.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:


Yes, logging ***CAN*** be sustainable. But it doesn't HAVE to be sustainable. It's more expensive to make it sustainable (think 'tree farms'). When I lived in a rural area, they had logging (I was told that it was winding down when I arrived there, and I was there for three years). It meant 'clear-cutting' and no regrowth strategy to be seen. I think they started replanting on a small scale near the end of my time there, but it was probably a case of too little, too late.


Hahaha too true. Logging should be sustainable. Not just because one should care about the enviro. But because in the long run, you can cut down more trees that way. Clear cutting means that it may take 60-70 years to regrow mature forests, while with replanting it is more around 45 years.


I hope with this new campaign, that they are smart about it.
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