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Sekhmet



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: Alexandria, Egypt

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Learning Arabic Reply with quote

Does anyone have any good suggestions of books for learning Arabic? Ok, so I'm immersed in the language, but I want to do more learning on my own time without having to ask my friends for translations...
I've got a couple of phrasebooks, but they're none too helpful!!!
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eslandflteacher



Joined: 05 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:18 pm    Post subject: Arabic Learning Reply with quote

Hi,

Here are some suggestions:

Elementary Modern Standard Arabic by Abboud et al [Cambridge publishing].

al kitab fi taCallum all allCarabiyyah by al Batal and Brustad.

Works by Mounther Younis (Yale publishing)

Ahlan wa Sahlan by Mehdi Alosh (Ohio State Uni publishing)

Good luck.
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Sekhmet



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Location: Alexandria, Egypt

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that!!! Shukran awi... Very Happy
I'm not doing too bad picking it up on my own, but I want to start doing some work on my own!!! Do you know about the Talk Now CD-ROM series? Are they worth having?
Thanks.
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eslandflteacher



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:41 am    Post subject: Recommendation Reply with quote

Ahlan biik,

I would recommend any of the accompanying audio-visual materials of the books/series I suggested. Al-kitab in particular offers an Egyptian flavor of Arabic that might be of interest to you, given your location.

Salaamaat.
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Bindair Dundat



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Learning Arabic Reply with quote

Sekhmet wrote:
Does anyone have any good suggestions of books for learning Arabic?


I've got a basic book/CD combo called Alif Baa. Excellent intro to all four skills.

BD
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Sekhmet



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Location: Alexandria, Egypt

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are these things available to buy in Egypt? I'm kinda on a budget, and I'm not convinced I could afford to have anything shipped!!! Also, I'd quite like Egyptian colloquial arabic... Is that possible, or does everything concentrate on classical?
Thanks for your help so far!!! Very Happy
Sekhmet
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eslandflteacher



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Arabic Reply with quote

Hi,

Alif Baa is part of the al-Kitab series, which is a good start. I am sure you might be able to find these books via the AUC bookstore system in Cairo.

Also, please understand that there is a difference between classical, modern standard and colloquial Arabic. I think what you are calling "classical" is MSA.

If one wants to REALLY learn Arabic, one has invest in a total package approach! Would we consider someone to really "know" English (if one can only speak it--without being able to access any of its cultural treasures, historical and contemporary in the written and modern standard format of English?) The same applies to Arabic.

If you learn "spoken Egyptian", (ultimately, whatever the heck that means), you only access a small part of Egyptian culture, let alone Arab culture. my advice is to invest in total learning.

Good luck.
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Cleopatra



Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an Arabic language course in SAudi Arabia called "Transparent Language". It consists of a CD rom with lots of dialogues, from basic to upper-intermediate (in Arabic script), basic phrases (in Latin script), a fairly detailed grammar introduction and the alphabet. You can read and listen to the dialogues at the same time, and, if you're feeling up to it, record your voice and cringe as you listen back to it!

Probably about as good an intro as you're going to get in one package: cost the equivalent of about 50 Euro a few years ago. You can buy them online too, I think.
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Sekhmet



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys....
One more question - how good are online courses? I've checked a few out, but the free "sneak previews" really don't seem too great... Do you have any suggestions of better ones before I end up wasting my money on the wrong thing??
Cheers!!!!!! Very Happy [/quote]
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bigfoot786



Joined: 16 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: Learning Arabic Reply with quote

There is a program called Pimsleur Language. They have an Eastern Arabic and and Egyptian Arabic language course. Sorry I dont know how much it costs but there should be info on the Pimsleur website.

I've heard from someone that it was quited helpful as a starter course. I dont think they have an advanced Arabic course.

Hope thats the type of info you looking for.

Bigfoot.
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Boy Wonder



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Location: Clacton on sea