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svaldezi
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 Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:46 pm Post subject: Options in Thailand |
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| Hello everyone. I just got my TEFL certification and I have a college degree in something else. I have two potential options currently. I can either teach in Mexico City because I got my certification in Mexico City and I have job contacts already. Or I can teach in Thailand through a program called (green heart travel) anybody ever hear about them? My point is I wanted somebody to be straight with me about teaching in Thailand. Some info about me is I'm not white. I'm Mexican American. Also I'm tall and a little overweight. So I know appearance can be a issue in Asian countries in general. Any advice or experiences about people who have taught in Thailand? Or just some things for me to keep in mind would be greatly appreciated? Thank you for any help, Sincerely Steven. |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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If your passport is American then you are American.
If your passport is not then you are not.
There is no nation of Mexico-America.
If you have a degree and a TEFL cert then you will get the bog standard offers of 30-35k right off the airplane.
Jobs are pretty easy to find.
Without an education degree or teacher certification you will pretty much be limited to 4 years in Thailand.
This is not Korea or China. Avoid agencies. Fly in and look for work. See what you are getting into BEFORE you sign on the dotted line.
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svaldezi
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Okay suphanburi thank you for answering the question and God Bless you sir.
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If your passport is American then you are American.
If your passport is not then you are not.
There is no nation of Mexico-America.
If you have a degree and a TEFL cert then you will get the bog standard offers of 30-35k right off the airplane.
Jobs are pretty easy to find.
Without an education degree or teacher certification you will pretty much be limited to 4 years in Thailand.
This is not Korea or China. Avoid agencies. Fly in and look for work. See what you are getting into BEFORE you sign on the dotted line.
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SunShan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| suphanburi wrote: |
Without an education degree or teacher certification you will pretty much be limited to 4 years in Thailand.
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Why limited to 4 years in Thailand? |
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EFL Educator
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The reality is everything done here now limits your stay in the Land of Smiles...especially with the new, harsh and constantly changing visa rules. One can only expect a short stay here...unless one gets married to a Thai or is retired with a lot of income!!!  |
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SunShan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'm taking my teaching licence next year; hoping to work in Thailand long-term (forever hopefully) in a few years' time. Better save enough for a dowry...
How does a teaching licence help though, if one is not working in an international school? |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| SunShan wrote: |
I'm taking my teaching licence next year; hoping to work in Thailand long-term (forever hopefully) in a few years' time. Better save enough for a dowry...
How does a teaching license help though, if one is not working in an international school? |
If you hold a valid license elsewhere (or a degree in education) then it is easy enough to obtain your license in Thailand.
Once you have your teacher's license in thailand the visa and work permit issues largely become nothing more than a rubber stamp process ...
unlike unlicensed teachers who have to try to hit constantly moving goal posts in an effort to remain in Thailand.
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SunShan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| suphanburi wrote: |
If you hold a valid license elsewhere (or a degree in education) then it is easy enough to obtain your license in Thailand.
Once you have your teacher's license in thailand the visa and work permit issues largely become nothing more than a rubber stamp process ...
unlike unlicensed teachers who have to try to hit constantly moving goal posts in an effort to remain in Thailand.
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Thanks, Suphanburi. That has reassured me about getting my licence even if I can't get a position in an international school. Although, I imagine that many teachers remain in their positions for more than 4 years with just Bachelor's degree. After all, this is Thailand.
Is it just a matter of applying for a Thai teaching licence? Or are there other boxes to tick?
Regards,
SunShan |
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EFL Educator
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Everything is subject to change here in the Land of Smiles...there will certainly be more changes to the work permit process and visa rules for EFL teachers in the future. With or without a teaching license it doesn't matter...obstacles will always be created here for you if you want to continue your EFL career teaching in the Land of SMILES. Change is inevitable...be prepared....forget about logic and good luck cause you will need it!  |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| SunShan wrote: |
| suphanburi wrote: |
If you hold a valid license elsewhere (or a degree in education) then it is easy enough to obtain your license in Thailand.
Once you have your teacher's license in thailand the visa and work permit issues largely become nothing more than a rubber stamp process ...
unlike unlicensed teachers who have to try to hit constantly moving goal posts in an effort to remain in Thailand.
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Thanks, Suphanburi. That has reassured me about getting my licence even if I can't get a position in an international school. Although, I imagine that many teachers remain in their positions for more than 4 years with just Bachelor's degree. After all, this is Thailand.
Is it just a matter of applying for a Thai teaching licence? Or are there other boxes to tick?
Regards,
SunShan |
With a valid teacher's license OR a valid degree in education (B.Ed, M.Ed, PGCE) then it is simply a matter of taking the Professional Ethics, Culture and language course (3-day workshop) and applying for your license.
Those without licensure or degrees in education (like many of those who still post here) are stuck chasing constantly moving goalposts (increasing qualifications needed) in an ever more difficult effort to "stay legal" and stay employed.
Don't let some of the other posters dissuade you.
bottom line:
- If you are qualified in the classroom then the paperwork is simply a rubber stamp affair and wages aren't too bad.
- If you have nothing more to offer than entry level qualifications (BA and a pulse) then entry level wages for entry level jobs and no visa security are pretty much what you can expect. You'd have better options in China, Vietnam, Korea or Taiwan.
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ielts_professional1992
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| before i was working in thailand,not bad wages i think $9 an hour but I had to work 8 hour shifts,once or twice never got paid but hey they were poor at least the weathers' good, in vietnam now wages much higher but my school says theyr keeping my passport until i pay registratiion fee hundred bucks anyn ideas on what to do can i phone the police! |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:18 am Post subject: |
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hmmm.... try asking in the Vietnam forum?
On a more serious note.. contact your embassy if your employer is holding your passport. It belongs to your government and not to you. Depending on where you are from, your embassy may or may not do anything.
The local police are not likely to do anything.
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ielts_professional1992
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| end of the day dont need it for ages cos dont need it during term time but would like it back sometime for in case i go back to thailand in the weekend dont know whyt hey cant just return it surely its not legal and also what if they lose it i. tried asking my dad back home to sort something with the british police maybe they can help bu not heard anything back ha |
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EFL Educator
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Disney English...!!!!!  |
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