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Considering teaching ESL, question(s) about qualifications

 
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rdarabos



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Considering teaching ESL, question(s) about qualifications Reply with quote

So like many people who are finally finishing up their degrees, I've become interested in doing something that doesn't even relate to my degree, that being teaching ESL.
I've been looking into teaching ESL for about a year. Though the qualifications are mentioned pretty much anywhere, I feel like its odd that the basic requirements are a bachelors in anything (though I've heard this may be changing). My wife and I are thinking of moving to a different country and teaching (perhaps S. Korea, but we're not for certain yet).

I currently have a BA (with a concentration in art and graphic design) and I am finishing my MFA. Is there any reason for me to get different or more education? I've considered a TESOL or CELTA, but mostly to help me merge into that environment a little more. My current only teaching experience is Teaching Assistantships in graduate school. I'm a little more shy and uneasy at first and to teach it would be a struggle when I start, but that's a struggle i'm interested in throwing myself into and fighting through.

My wife will have her bachelors in elementary education, with a masters certificate. She'll also have all the experience teaching through her school in order to graduate. She's also incredible at teaching, working with kids, etc.

So I'm really just curious about our qualifications. Is that enough? Will getting jobs be easy enough with them qualifications?

I'm also curious about placement. My wife and I would need to be placed close, we would still be sharing an apartment. We don't need to teach at the same school, but would definitely refuse to live across the country from each other. Is this taken into effect? Or is it more difficult to be placed in the same city?

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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be well worth your time to do a TEFL certificate (SIT, CELTA, and Trinity are the most well-known). While not all jobs require one, completion of a reputable certificate program will help you build your confidence in the classroom and introduce you to teaching methodologies appropriate for EFL students (which will be different than what you utilized as a TA in art and graphic design). Your wife could also do a TEFL certificate but, alternatively, she might be just as well (or better) served by completing coursework for an ESL endorsement to her elementary ed licensure, particularly if she's hoping to teach kids instead of adults.

If you're going to need some time to complete your education before going overseas, you might also consider getting some practical hands on experience via the following:

1) Volunteer to teach/tutor ESL at a local adult education program in your community. Typically, such programs will offer 6-12 hours of free training up front and require you to commit to two hours of tutoring per week.

OR

2) If your university (or another college or university in your community) has an intensive English program (IEP) for foreign students, check and see if they need native speakers to help with tutoring, serve as conversation partners, etc.

OR

3) In the absence of formal programs for ESL students, volunteer to tutor (sometimes these positions pay as well) in your college's Writing Center or a local GED program. Even helping native-speakers with basic writing and grammar skills will look good on your resume when you go overseas and will help you get a feel for explaining the basics of English grammar (though, not at the same depth that you'll ultimately need to explain to non-English speakers).

OR

4) Any combination of the above-mentioned options.

While none of these things are required, per say, to get a job, they'll help build your confidence in working with EFL students and, possibly, give you a slight edge over other entry-level applicants.
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rtm



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Considering teaching ESL, question(s) about qualificatio Reply with quote

rdarabos wrote:
I've been looking into teaching ESL for about a year. Though the qualifications are mentioned pretty much anywhere, I feel like its odd that the basic requirements are a bachelors in anything (though I've heard this may be changing).

Please don't mistake what is needed to get a job (in some places in the world) with the training that is needed to be a good ESL/EFL teacher. Some places in the world will hire completely untrained teachers out of need (these will often be the lower-paying countries / positions because more qualified people tend to go to places that pay more). In order to do a good job as an ESL/EFL teacher, you should have some kind of training in ESL/EFL teaching. Of course, how highly you prioritize doing a good job is your decision.

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My wife and I are thinking of moving to a different country and teaching (perhaps S. Korea, but we're not for certain yet).

Requirements vary considerably by region/country. Discussion about Korea needs to happen on the Korea board, which requires separate registration.

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I currently have a BA (with a concentration in art and graphic design) and I am finishing my MFA. Is there any reason for me to get different or more education? I've considered a TESOL or CELTA, but mostly to help me merge into that environment a little more.

First, a clarification on terminology: TESOL stands for Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages, and is an umbrella term for an entire field of work and study. Some institutions offer courses that lead to a certificate in TESOL. A specific "brand" of TESOL certificate is the CELTA. Yes you should consider taking a certificate course before you begin teaching (preferably in-person, with observed teaching experience with real students). In my opinion, you owe your future students (who will be paying hard-earned money to learn from you) at least that much. That said, depending on where in the world you want to work, it may be possible for you to get a job offer without a certificate.

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I'm a little more shy and uneasy at first and to teach it would be a struggle when I start, but that's a struggle i'm interested in throwing myself into and fighting through.

All the more reason to have some kind of training.

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My wife will have her bachelors in elementary education, with a masters certificate. She'll also have all the experience teaching through her school in order to graduate. She's also incredible at teaching, working with kids, etc.

"Working with kids" and teaching ESL/EFL are not quite the same thing. While her training in elementary education will be helpful, she would also benefit from training in teaching ESL/EFL. As esl_prof suggested, adding an ESL endorsement to her licensure would probably benefit her the most in the long run.

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I'm also curious about placement. My wife and I would need to be placed close, we would still be sharing an apartment. We don't need to teach at the same school, but would definitely refuse to live across the country from each other. Is this taken into effect? Or is it more difficult to be placed in the same city?

It really depends on where in the world you want to work. Some places prefer to hire couples (possibly more stable), while others prefer single people (if a couple decides to leave, the school is out 2 teachers). In some places in the world, applications are submitted to a larger program or company and teachers are "placed" (as you suggested), while in others, teachers apply directly to individual schools.

I think the first thing you should decide is which countries you are interested in.
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rdarabos



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has anyone heard of or worked for a company called Aclipse?
they say they have opportunities in China and Korea. And that teachers can earn their ESL certifications while there.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rdarabos wrote:
has anyone heard of or worked for a company called Aclipse?
they say they have opportunities in China and Korea. And that teachers can earn their ESL certifications while there.


Probably best to inquire on the China and Korea discussion forums.
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