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rollingk
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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It's not so dire in KSA if you take the middle road. Those who jump up and down for, and against, the locals should be avoided. Apologists and bashers are problematic, as are multicultural banner carriers and cultural exclusivists.
In my experience people at both ends of the spectrum are entirely too needy, too invested in extraneous nonsense to notice what's under their noses. Many of us didn't end up here as a last resort, but even so it's unlikely we'll still be commenting on the place after we exit it. |
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plumpy nut
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Are you aware of the role the tabloids in England had in eliminating child labor? How many putrefactive things here would you say need to be eliminated? |
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rollingk
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Plumpy,I think you gotta be just joshin.
. . . but just in case you're not: it's not our society, despite all the insipid and incessant talk of global community and whatnot. As the regional animus for maintaining the state of things has always been "them against us", entirely beyond recourse to fact or reason, I doubt we teachers could make any perceivable effect, unless it's just to provide more amo for more of the same. |
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psychedelicacy
Joined: 05 Oct 2013 Posts: 180 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:07 am Post subject: |
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The average is 12,000 to 14,000 riyals per month. Any more or less is unusual. $3,000 is therefore a little on the low side.
That said, unless you blow a lot of money on holidays, a single person will save almost all of that. So a year or two in Saudi on $3,000 per month will significantly improve one's financial position.
The negative side to it is that you would be highly unlikely to enjoy your job. ELT is such a mindnumbing and repetitive job at the best of times, but add in to the mix all-male classes of Saudi young adults, most of whom simply there because they get free money from the government, and it's a thankless job. |
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bigdurian
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 401 Location: Flashing my lights right behind you!
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| it;s what you make of it, if you come thinking it will be cr** , it probably will be. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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| As for mingling with the 'locals', how, especially if you are a woman? ... Proper KSA people- rare. (in my experience). |
KSA women are very happy to talk to western women living here and will fall over themselves to swap phone numbers. Not all of these will become lifelong friendships, but you certainly help your chances to get involved in local culture by approaching them. All that's needed for this is a bit of confidence to simply introduce yourself. |
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1chunk
Joined: 05 Aug 2014 Posts: 123
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Salaries have actually fallen over the last 3/4 years (or more) if you take inflation etc in to account. I think some have commented on this in other threads... The main reason is simply supply and demand.
If you visit a CELTA course in London (I've been to a few) you will see a good number of young Muslim guys hoping to fly out to Saudi upon completion.
They are native, have degrees (related and non related) and in some cases experience. Recruiters know they are perfectly happy to work for a pittance and so there you have it. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Salaries have actually fallen over the last 3/4 years (or more) if you take inflation etc in to account. I think some have commented on this in other threads... The main reason is simply supply and demand.
If you visit a CELTA course in London (I've been to a few) you will see a good number of young Muslim guys hoping to fly out to Saudi upon completion.
They are native, have degrees (related and non related) and in some cases experience. Recruiters know they are perfectly happy to work for a pittance and so there you have it. |
Possibly. However, overall wages in other countries, including the US, have been flat for years as well. I suspect Saudi contracting companies are faced with increased overhead in addition to more competition and/or reduced or lost business. Also, keep in mind, their role is as middlemen, which is reflective in those salaries. It's not realistic to expect these companies to pay more in wages when their main interest is in making a profit. |
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