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Is an MEd worth it without a PGCE?

 
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Dancebiscuits



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:22 pm    Post subject: Is an MEd worth it without a PGCE? Reply with quote

Hi all
Just about to start a role as a classroom primary teacher with a school in Qatar that offers to heavily subsidise an MEd in Multidisciplinary Studies with the State University of New York. I do not have a PGCE already - just a BA (Hons) in history, a TEFL, a CELTA and a couple of years ESL teaching experience. I want to be able to work as a classroom teacher in international schools in Europe one day (I'm British, btw = eligible to live in the EU).

Is it still the case that a Masters in Education is mostly for existing teachers that wish to develop their teaching skills, and does not lead to a valid teaching qualification? Ie. is it worth me spending any money at all on this (subsidised still means I'd have to spend a couple of grand) or should I just bite the bullet and pay for a PGCE (many grand)?

And if the latter, can anyone personally recommend a PGCE course I can do by distance while working in Qatar please?

Thanks everyone Smile
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:51 am    Post subject: Re: Is an MEd worth it without a PGCE? Reply with quote

Dancebiscuits wrote:
Hi all
Just about to start a role as a classroom primary teacher with a school in Qatar that offers to heavily subsidise an MEd in Multidisciplinary Studies with the State University of New York. I do not have a PGCE already - just a BA (Hons) in history, a TEFL, a CELTA and a couple of years ESL teaching experience. I want to be able to work as a classroom teacher in international schools in Europe one day (I'm British, btw = eligible to live in the EU).

Is it still the case that a Masters in Education is mostly for existing teachers that wish to develop their teaching skills, and does not lead to a valid teaching qualification? Ie. is it worth me spending any money at all on this (subsidised still means I'd have to spend a couple of grand) or should I just bite the bullet and pay for a PGCE (many grand)?

And if the latter, can anyone personally recommend a PGCE course I can do by distance while working in Qatar please?

Thanks everyone Smile


Careful with distance courses, they're not accepted everywhere, e.g. KSA.
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suphanburi



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

replied to in your duplicate thread in the newbie zone:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=108805

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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your first step should have been to just look up the website for the program itself.

Is this it?

If so, then you would read,

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The M.Ed. satisfies the requirement that P-12 teachers complete a master's degree in a related area in order to obtain professional certification. Students will be able to independently pursue professional certification after completion of the M.Ed. For additional information about New York state professional certification requirements, please review this FAQ document.
Note: The M.Ed. does not lead to NYS initial teacher certification. Teacher certification is possible through the college's Master of Arts in Teaching (MAT) program.


If not, then you should probably find it.

One idea: if they are going to pay for most of it, why don't you think about doing both qualifications, if you can possibly afford it? (Note: You will probably need to do the PGCE on-campus).

(ETA, if you go to the FAQ section, it seems to suggest that a general studies degree won't qualify for licensure. But then, they are talking about licensure in New York State. If it doesn't satisfy the requirements for one state, it almost definitely cannot be used to get a teaching certificate in a different area).
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PGCE
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psychedelicacy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Is an MEd worth it without a PGCE? Reply with quote

Sorry to go off-topic a bit here, but...

Dancebiscuits wrote:
Just about to start a role as a classroom primary teacher with a school in Qatar [...] I do not have a PGCE already - just a BA (Hons) in history, a TEFL, a CELTA and a couple of years ESL teaching experience.


With all due respect, I would approach this position with trepidation, if I were you. Qatari children are notoriously difficult to teach, even to teachers who are skilled and specialized in teaching young children. With your decidedly limited experience, you are likely to find this a very difficult job.
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