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[rxk22]

[rxk22]

[marley'sghost]

[nightsintodreams]

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How do you know that no one on this board is making 350,000 yen a month or more MA teacher? Have you been getting copies of our pay slips?

[mateacher]

I said I doubt anyone is making more than 350.000 yen per month base salary as an eikaiwa teacher, whereas in the 90s a base salary for eikaiwa was close to 350.000

[rxk22]

[mateacher]

I have never been into promotion either. Its better to work on skills such as studying an MA or PhD or studying Japanese rather than trying to become an Interact manager.

[marley'sghost]

[Shimokitazawa]

You call those idiots "boss"? They're nothing but sycophants and ass kissers that care nothing about their fellow gaijin teachers. Interact, and most big chain eikaiwa, are full of corporate ass kissers like this.

Like the guy above said, smart people should forget all about that corporate shit and just focus on investing in themselves instead of trying to climb the corporate ladder at NOVA, Berlitz or Westgate. Earn that CELTA, DELTA or master's in business or literature or TESOL. And then get out of the hell hole that are dispatch agencies and eikaiwa.

Besides, there's not much of a ladder to climb in those dirty dispatch and eikaiwa companies. Unless it's your life's ambition to become Assistant Trainer.

[flyingmonkey]

Ryan sounds like he's definitely having a better time in Thailand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ZCPdVCMKc

[timothypfox]

mateacher, you are not correct about the base salary for eikaiwa teachers in the 90s. The base salary was about 280,000 a month for big companies like GEOS, AEON, or NOVA regardless of whether you had a law degree or MA or PhD, and then the eikaiwa industry salaries as a whole stayed flat for several years and recently have been tapering off.

What a handful of teachers did to make more than 300,000 was to take privates and/or put together a couple of part-time jobs rather than working the standard 29.5 hours a week at the big 3. People who did this way often had harder schedules than working at an eikaiwa full-time-ish.

[Lamarr]

IIRC, the "absolute" base salary was about 260k a month, but I know NOVA (and probably other eikaiwa) added allowances on top for things like working evening shifts, Sundays, a regional allowance if you worked in Tokyo, so people generally started on around 280k, even higher.

10k per month salary raises were fairly routine as well each year, so within a couple of years, people would be on at least 300k. I think long-term regular instructors could reach a peak of about 350k a month. That's why people used to end up stuck there, as it was too good to be true to be getting paid that kind of money for a job where you didn't really have to do any work (apart from surviving the mind-crushing boredom of eight droning eikaiwa "lessons" every day).

From what I see now, the starting salaries tend to be about 250k, and you hit a peak of about 260k maybe (AEON pay more I hear, but that's to cover your Shakai Hoken). It's really not worth doing it for more than 2-3 years, unless there's nothing else you can do.

[Miura Anjin]

With Nova nowadays the base salary is about 200,000 per month although it varies slightly according to how many lessons you do per week, with add-ons for not being late or absent, working any shift they want you to work, and agreeing to be sent anywhere in the country whenever they need you. The latter two are optional, but if you don't sign them then your pay is pretty measly.

[TokyoLiz]

Hang on. A convenience store worker makes about ¥800-1000 and hour. With overtime, likely he or she can make ¥130,000-¥150,000. And that's a subsistence wage.

¥200,000 a month is not enough to live on.

Unless you have a pressing reason to be in Japan, or a partner or family who can support you, it doesn't make sense to come here and work on that pittance.

[Miura Anjin]