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Steve Smith



Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4.5K after tax is special, I reckon. Oxford Study Centre paid me (as ADOS) 2000zl after tax. I was required to be there from 11am to 9pm daily (with an hour for lunch). Mrs. G. was also big on making deductions from wages for one reason or another.

Grant was a good guy when I was there, it was just the regime we were working under which was intolerable. This was caused by the owner enforcing a strict system of teacher observations. One of the crazy things we had during that year was an "approval league table" of teachers. This involved the (mostly teenaged) students being questionnaired, and then each of the 12 teachers was given a percentage approval and a ranking, which was made public to all the teachers. Those who fared worse totally lost their confidence and motivation - and this happened as early in the academic year as November...

Grant was caught up in the middle. He put up as much resistance as he could to the owner, but ultimately he had no choice but to yield to her demands. Poor guy! Last I heard of him he was working for Pearson - anyone know where he is now?
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CROGO



Joined: 15 Mar 2004
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Location: Krakow

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: I have earned of Don John a thousand ducats. Reply with quote

Oh, the grand man! And me just a poor country lad, walked a mile in me bare feet just to see him!

Why the grand man with his degree with honours hath earnt less than anyone else teaching in Poland at the time he was there!

[ASIDE] Perhaps he was turned down for the better paying jobs because he persisted in using an archaic form of the past participle without its helping verb in his application letters? Or perhaps he could not get a job at a Polish university teaching English literature because he was a stranger to Shakespeare?

Scour the works of Shakespeare for a reference to "earnt" all you want, old boy! You will not find the word, not even in the past participle! But "earned" does appear five times, "I have earned of Don John a thousand ducats." (Much Ado about Nothing, Act III, Scene III, line 45), "a swaggering accent sharply twanged off, gives manhood more approbation than ever proof itself would have earned him." (Twelfth-Night; or, What You Will, Act III, Scene IV, line 96), "they would truncheon you out for taking their names upon you before you have earned them" (The Second Part of King Henry the Fourth, Act II, Scene IV, line 50), "A great addition earned in thy death." (Troilus and Cressida, Act IV, Scene V, line 161), "Of earned praise, Marina's life." (Pericles, Prince of Tyre, Act IV, Prologue, line 13).

Similar to "learn'd" the truncated "earn'd" appears 3 times, "The one for ever earn'd a royal husband," (The Winter's Tale, Act I, Scene II, line 131), "Though Marcius earn'd them not; and all his faults." (Coriolanus, Act I, Scene I, line 261), "And they have earn'd the waste. Poor Antony!" (Antony and Cleopatra, Act IV, Scene I, line 19). (No need to scour really, old boy! All of Oxford's Shakespeare is online and searchable with the click of a mouse! See: http://yahooligans.yahoo.com/reference/shakespeare/index.html)

So it would appear that Shakespeare approved of "earnt" not at all.
Oh, and sorry old boy, but Shakespeare created a character called Bottom not Prat.

[Exeunt.]
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Steve Smith



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:12 am    Post subject: Grant K Reply with quote

Sorry, as I was asking, does anyone know what Grant K is doing now?
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CROGO



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Location: Krakow

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Brainwashing? A light rinse would have sufficed! Reply with quote

"�500 a month was one of the best deals going?! Looks like the Target brainwashing has another victim. In 1997 �500 was about 3,000PLN. Even English First (widely known as one of the worst paying schools in the universe) was paying 3,800PLN ($1,000). Personally I was working far fewer hours than teachers at Target and EF (I was doing 18 hours a week, they were doing 24) and making 4,500PLN a month AFTER tax (something which neither EF not Target bothered with)."

No need for a Brainwashing. A light rinse was all that was required.
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Kymro



Joined: 19 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Brainwashing? A light rinse would have sufficed! Reply with quote

CROGO wrote:
"�500 a month was one of the best deals going?! Looks like the Target brainwashing has another victim. In 1997 �500 was about 3,000PLN. Even English First (widely known as one of the worst paying schools in the universe) was paying 3,800PLN ($1,000). Personally I was working far fewer hours than teachers at Target and EF (I was doing 18 hours a week, they were doing 24) and making 4,500PLN a month AFTER tax (something which neither EF not Target bothered with)."



Well I personally couldn't give a flying f*** what you were earning.

Could you please do me and others on this board a small favour and kill yourself.
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Alex Shulgin



Joined: 20 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Brainwashing? A light rinse would have sufficed! Reply with quote

Kymro wrote:
Well I personally couldn't give a flying f*** what you were earning.

Could you please do me and others on this board a small favour and kill yourself.



Yes make sure that nobody who is thinking about coming to Poland knows what the wages here should really be! That way you school managers can keep on ripping off the newbies! I would say that I hope you sleep well at night but of course you do, you don't carry who gets ripped off as long as you have the money to support your habits.
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go2guy



Joined: 15 Apr 2004
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Location: France

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rather enjoy stopping in to the "Poland" forum, always some good (or bad, depending on how you look at it) pissin' matches happening. Anyway, out of curiosity, what are some of the more REPUTABLE schools in Poland? I came - I read - I learned ... thanks!
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XXX



Joined: 14 Feb 2003
Posts: 174
Location: Where ever people wish to learn English

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Word" School in Tarnobrzeg and Stalowa Wola. I was payed on time and treated very well. It was a very pleasant year.
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Kymro



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: Brainwashing? A light rinse would have sufficed! Reply with quote

Alex Shulgin wrote:


I would say that I hope you sleep well at night but of course you do, you don't carry who gets ripped off as long as you have the money to support your habits.


Could you please identify the 'habits' to which you are referring.
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Alex Shulgin



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: Brainwashing? A light rinse would have sufficed! Reply with quote

Kymro wrote:
Could you please identify the 'habits' to which you are referring.


We both know which habits you need to feed. But then so do most of the people in this game in Poland. All the teachers I've met from your town know about your little problem.

Good to see that you've stopped trying to deny that you're interested in ripping people off.
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Kymro



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I've never met you I can't see how you'd know anything about my habits.

But I am, of course, more than happy to arrange a personal meeting.

How about it?
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Kevin Fletcher



Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
It's quite common for guys to meet girls in Poland and have children, but I know more girls who have met guys, so watch out girls.
Ha ha
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