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Prof.Gringo

So, I have seen the rise of recruiters here in Vietnam in the last few years. Now it seems fewer & fewer employers are doing the actual recruiting & hiring for jobs.

EIV is an example of a recruiter which poses as a "school". What service do they provide? Oh, yes, they run job ads on free websites and then take about $5USD per hour, so instead of making $24USD an hour, the foreign teacher is making $19 an hour (or whatever). The only thing EIV does is receive the resumes, arrange an interview and have you sign the infamous, draconian EIV contract.

FYI: "VietnamTeachingJobs.com" is wholly owned by EIV, and in fact, check the contact info for VTJ.com and EIV, you will find the same phone number listed. Call it, and a "Mr. Son" answers it. So, anybody who uses that site is actually using EIV as a recruiter.

Then there are a number of copy-cats around, who also provide some "service" and for that, you get to pay them about $5 USD per hour of your salary.

The how & why of "schools/employers" using a head-hunter seems obvious: They can simply defer everything to the agency, and replace the foreign teacher with just a phone call.

But what about the fact that the teacher is "losing" $5USD per hour (or more) for each hour taught??? Of course, this is not spelled out clearly in the contract. Also, this is not something for a fixed time period, say a 90 day probation during which the recruiter gets the salary differential, this is built into the contract, so it seems that the recruiter keeps taking their cut of the salary for as long as you keep working under the contract.

VietCanada · Joined: 30 Nov 2010 Posts: 590

You need more examples to claim epidemic. Nevertheless warning heeded.

cb400 · Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Posts: 274 Location: Vientiane, Laos

Best thing is for teachers to just go around them. Send your CV's directly to the schools and try to contact HR. A bit more leg work, will get you more money also. I don't think these services will take off here because the Vietnamese are not willing to part with any money to the recruiter (if possible) and try to get the teacher signed up to them directly cutting the recruiter out.

My old shithole of Neverlearn is using them, because the foreign staff have left and none of the management left speaks English. Laughing

sigmoid · Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1276

Well, this is what you have posted on another thread http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109025

deadlift · Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 267

Prof.Gringo · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:38 am Post subject:

skarper · Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 477

Recruiters are one of the worst aspects of the EFL scene in Korea. I hope these vultures lose all their money and go out of business fast.

But I'm not holding my breath.

Advice to newbies - NEVER USE A RECRUITER - just never do it. If we don't feed them they will die off. If we do they will grow and multiply like rats.