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SUNEO Oaxaca with children?

 
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bdbarnett1



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:17 am    Post subject: SUNEO Oaxaca with children? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have an M.A. in English Lit plus 10 years teaching (6 of those Grade 12) and was thinking about the SUNEO system for the opportunity to move into a university position. Seems like the pay was about $1000 US a month, but maybe that's changed recently...all the posts I can find are a bit dated.

A couple of questions:

1 - What's the current pay?
2 - If I have school-aged children, what's the situation with their schooling? I doubt public schools are a good idea, but what's the price range on private schools? Spanish-only is fine, we are bilingual. I realize we're discussing a whole state, so this could vary, just trying to figure it out generally.

Gracias.
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
The first thing to keep in mind is that these universities are in small cities and towns around the state. That will really limit education options.
For example I currently live in a small town that doesn't have a single private primary school so my fifth graders are in public school.
Tuxtepec is Oaxaca's second largest city and there are private schools but none are bilingual. I think there are two that have English daily and a couple with an hour or two of English a week.
Huajuapan has several private schools, none of which are bilingual. I'm not sure about the isthmus or huatulco. The other places are REALLY small.
Private schools are a lot cheaper than in Mexico city and other big cities. In Huajuapan the most expensive one was 850 a month per kid.

Are your kids Mexican citizens? One issue is you will each need a visa if not and they all cost the same. Another issue is that the Mexican primary curriculum is federally mandated and its all about Mexico. Like literally the same history every year for six years, the same geography, the same civics, and the same patriotic poetry year in and year out.
Dealing with primary school has been the biggest struggle I've had in Mexico.

Climate varies from region to region, and also keep in mind medical care facilities do too. Before my children started first grade dealing with "pediatricians" Rolling Eyes was my biggest struggle in Mexico.

Pay would be about 15,000 Mexican pesos. Oh and do you have something that certifies you to teach English as a foreign language? Oaxaca's immigration office has gotten kind of picky about that.
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bdbarnett1



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
Hi
The first thing to keep in mind is that these universities are in small cities and towns around the state. That will really limit education options.
For example I currently live in a small town that doesn't have a single private primary school so my fifth graders are in public school.
Tuxtepec is Oaxaca's second largest city and there are private schools but none are bilingual. I think there are two that have English daily and a couple with an hour or two of English a week.
Huajuapan has several private schools, none of which are bilingual. I'm not sure about the isthmus or huatulco. The other places are REALLY small.
Private schools are a lot cheaper than in Mexico city and other big cities. In Huajuapan the most expensive one was 850 a month per kid.

Are your kids Mexican citizens? One issue is you will each need a visa if not and they all cost the same. Another issue is that the Mexican primary curriculum is federally mandated and its all about Mexico. Like literally the same history every year for six years, the same geography, the same civics, and the same patriotic poetry year in and year out.
Dealing with primary school has been the biggest struggle I've had in Mexico.

Climate varies from region to region, and also keep in mind medical care facilities do too. Before my children started first grade dealing with "pediatricians" Rolling Eyes was my biggest struggle in Mexico.

Pay would be about 15,000 Mexican pesos. Oh and do you have something that certifies you to teach English as a foreign language? Oaxaca's immigration office has gotten kind of picky about that.


The pay sounds better Smile

The good news is that my wife has homeschooled my kids in the past, and could do so again, though part of the point of being abroad is to interact with people. She's a former teacher, but a stay at home mom for now. The school fees sound manageable on that salary combined with the other Oaxaca cost of living information I've seen posted. We're a very frugal bunch Smile

Are there any specific immunizations that are required for school entrance?

The visa situation sounds like it could use some research...how much of a mission is it to get a dependent visa? Wife and 3 kids, ages 8, 3, and 1.

I do have two certifications to teach English - one is ESL for all levels (EC-12) from Texas and the Secondary English Language Arts cert from Texas. I realize that neither of these is a TEFL certificate, per se, but surely it's adequate, since they were loads more work to get than a one month certificate somewhere. My M.A. also included some applied linguistics courses, but there was no provision to name those as a minor, so I wouldn't declare it as such - though that's essentially what it was. Add 6 years teaching Grade 12 English to that (4 of those VERY low English levels), and hopefully that would be sufficient for a visa.

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MotherF



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is they know what a TEFL certificate looks like and they are used to dealing with that or MAs in TESOL and such. We had a teacher with a Washington state teaching license was it was and how it qualified the teacher for the position.

Dependent visas are straight forward once you have yours, especially if the dependents are citizens of the same country as their provider. You will need apostilled birth certificates and marriage certificate. China was tricky, and Turkey turned out to be impossible, in part because the person was not in Turkey at the time.
See
http://www.censia.salud.gob.mx/contenidos/spc/art34.html for the Mexican vaccination scheme you do need to show the vaccination card to register for school, and I imagine you'd have to go to the health department with whatever foreign vaccination documents you have and have them issue a Mexican one because schools are not really known for their flexibility! I guess you might find a private school willing to work with you.

Another option might be to stay with teaching IB and get in at a ritzy collegio in some other part of mexico that would allow your kids to attend free or at a discount.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
Another option might be to stay with teaching IB and get in at a ritzy collegio in some other part of mexico that would allow your kids to attend free or at a discount.


That doesn't get me university experience, does it Smile One wants to teach semi-motivated students at some point. But that is also under consideration. Better in Mexico somewhere than a 5th year in the dry and dusty UAE, at this point.
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