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CANDLES



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There you go! A survivor! Very Happy
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
5th Column is quite right. Better to spend your declining years in Burkina Faso, Urban Korea or Papua New Guinea. An inner-city slum in Manchester or Detroit or multi-ethnic suburb of Johannesburg in his eyes might also be better than working in an Ivory Tower in KSA.

Not all of us had negative experiences of the Magic Kingdom. Attempts to decapitate me were not at all common.


There are no slums in the beautiful city of Manchester. Set foot in the fair city and you may well be decapitated for your heresy.
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CANDLES



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, Now... calm down dear!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I consider it my duty to educate those who require it:

http://www.manchester.com/features/first.php
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CANDLES



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, MG.....there you go, 1st for anything/everything in Manchester. Very Happy
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The Fifth Column



Joined: 11 Jun 2014
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Location: His habitude with lexical items protrudes not unlike a damaged pollex!!!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
5th Column is quite right. Better to spend your declining years in Burkina Faso, Urban Korea or Papua New Guinea. An inner-city slum in Manchester or Detroit or multi-ethnic suburb of Johannesburg in his eyes might also be better than working in an Ivory Tower in KSA.

Not all of us had negative experiences of the Magic Kingdom. Attempts to decapitate me were not at all common.


Again, you misunderstand me, scot. Ignoring the ridiculous locales that you mention, people, like you, as you are, should live out their later years in a locale that they want to live in. Now, if that locale is the Great Sand Box, then they fall into one of two categories:

1.) Not clear thinking because, obviously, the heat has gotten to them, or;

2.) People who live there past 60 or so because they are obsessed with, as you put it, Mammon. In that regard, it is NOT where they want to live, but where they have to live.

Now, as to your suggestion that I had a negative experience in The Great Sandbox. I, actually, did not. All, but one of my many years, were spent "on the economy". The rest were spent on compounds (some comfortable, some not so) that put a 16-foot wall between us and Saudi "culture" at large. Heck, in one, we had a wave pool...in another we had 8 bathrooms in our four-bedroom villa...all for the lil' missus, me and our two cats. The downside to all of this wonderful compound living is that two of them were bombed back in 2003. But, that's the chance you take when you teach the RSAF.

My mantra always has been is, "I'm not being negative, I'm commenting on the reality. If you want to end my 'negative' comments, then change reality."

Where's the positive (and don't cherry-pick) in:

-the driving
-the red tape
-the inability to queue up
-blaming God for everything except being late/absent or failing a test they that they didn't prepare for/anything else that hits their fancy
-the mutawwa accosting non-muslim women to "cover up" hither and yon
-getting Saudis, who control your lives with government paperwork, to simply do their jobs
-the testosterone-addled youth being nuisances from the moment they get up until they pass out
-etc...

Live and Let Live is a noble ideal...but it's a two-way process...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My buddy, Fred Engels, put me off Manchester in that book he wrote- "The Condition of the Working Classes in Manchester in 1844"

I will give the place a miss.


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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
My buddy, Fred Engels, put me off Manchester in that book he wrote "The Condition of the Working Classes in Manchester in 1844"

I will give the place a miss.


Engels was a decent chap. So was Karl who enjoyed the odd beer in Manchester in The Salutation! Things are better since Fred was there...
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No contract renewal for expat professors above 60
Arab News | 19 November 2014
Source: http://www.arabnews.com/featured/news/662231

JEDDAH: The Ministry of Higher Education has instructed 25 public universities in the country not to renew the contracts of expatriate professors over the age of 60.

A recent report in local media had said the Minister of Higher Education sent a letter to the directors of these universities not to submit requests to the Council of Higher Education for contract renewals. However, the ministry has decided that it would still empower the education boards of universities to renew the contracts of these expatriate employees without referring to the council.

According to the ministry, public university boards are authorized to renew the contracts of non-Saudi staff with a limit of 10 years for professors, five for assistant professors and three for other faculty members. There are 25,909 teaching staff at the country’s public universities, according to statistics from the ministry. About 15,000 or 62 percent are expatriates, consisting of nearly 10,000 men and 4,700 women faculty members.

A total of 3,238 Saudi and expatriate faculty members are professors, 6,405 are associate professors and 16,266 are assistant professors, according to the data.

(End of article)


Apparently, it's at the discretion of the university in terms of age but not on the number of years of employment. Additionally, it's unclear if PYPs are exempt.
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