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sicklyman
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| BajaLaJaula wrote: |
Not sure about Aramco...I suspect they are still the best gig in Saudi though.
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in comparison to the figures you quote here, it seems that way.
All in, a contracted teacher will pull in $100K+ cash per year plus three return flights and class A medical insurance. With the year's big intake last week, almost every teacher in the kingdom is on one or two periods per day of mandatory overtime which will add to that.
The only expense is housing and you have the freedom to spend as much or as little as you want on that.
Direct hire will net you significantly more, not necessarily in salary but in cashable benefits, particularly if you are from the US. |
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bonesleet
Joined: 21 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:03 pm Post subject: $ |
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sicklyman
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All in, a contracted teacher will pull in $100K+ cash per year plus three return flights and class A medical insurance. With the year's big intake last week, almost every teacher in the kingdom is on one or two periods per day of mandatory overtime which will add to that.
The only expense is housing and you have the freedom to spend as much or as little as you want on that.
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So they provide free transportation? Also, which contractor(s) are you referring to exactly? SRACO, HAKA, Al Hoty, Al Falak, Midwest, or JAL?
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| Direct hire will net you significantly more, not necessarily in salary but in cashable benefits, particularly if you are from the US. |
Do you have the contact information for one of Aramco's HR recruiters that we could send our resumes in to? Palms are welcomed and thank you. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: $ |
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| bonesleet wrote: |
| So they provide free transportation? |
... as well as buy all your groceries for you too. Seriously, with petrol cheaper than water, transportation being free wouldn't make or break the deal. No, they don't provide transportation.
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| Also, which contractor(s) are you referring to exactly? SRACO, HAKA, Al Hoty, Al Falak, Midwest, or JAL? |
All of them. It makes no difference to your salary (although which one you come with can make a huge difference to whether you survive the job here). What does make a difference to your salary is how much you squeeze out of them when they make you an offer, based on a realistic assessment of how much you think you are worth.
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Do you have the contact information for one of Aramco's HR recruiters that we could send our resumes in to? Palms are welcomed and thank you. |
That will get you nowhere. In fact, it may well get you blacklisted by Aramco. Go through the proper channels: either monitor Aramco's website for direct hire TEFL positions (rare and you'd better be good) or trawl job sites like Dave's for contractors advertising from time to time. I'm not aware that there's any recruiting currently going on. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Location: The real world
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:25 am Post subject: |
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On a related note...
Post all job details, govt bodies told
Saudi Gazette | November 03, 2014
Source: http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20141104223302
RIYADH — The Council of Ministers on Monday made it mandatory for all government and public organizations to announce details of jobs available with them through their websites or newspapers. The weekly session of the Cabinet was chaired by Crown Prince Salman Bin Abdulaziz, deputy premier and minister of defense, at Al-Yamamah Palace here.
In a statement to the Saudi Press Agency following the session, Minister of Culture and Information Abdulaziz Khoja said that the Cabinet endorsed a report presented by the minister of civil service to the effect that all institutions, public organizations, funds with special regulations, and government agencies that have jurisdiction to hire staff to frame criteria for filling up jobs on the basis of equal opportunities and competition among the applicants.
These organizations must advertise details of jobs, including their requirements and financial benefits, on their websites as well as on the website of the Ministry of Civil Service and two or more local newspapers. This mechanism will continue until the launching of the National E-Gate for Employment.
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Pikgitina
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: KSA
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| sicklyman wrote: |
| Direct hire will net you significantly more, not necessarily in salary but in cashable benefits, particularly if you are from the US. |
Yes. Direct hires receive a payout every March with the Saudi Aramco Incentive Plan. Also, the yearly bonus is about a quarter of your annual salary. They don't pay for flights per se, but do give you the equivalent of one return business class flight based on your point of hire.
Some of these benefits might be payroll specific. This is how it works for those who are on the Pound Sterling Payroll. |
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ultraman111
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| What yearly bonus? There is an annual benefit program worth about 6 weeks of salary........now all the direct new hires are on the global payroll payable in Us dollars sent to any bank account you like....some didnt accept the changeover and aramco coundnt force them to change so they are waiting for them to leave the company....Eventuall every new hire will be on the global payroll.....based in us dollars.......benefits are either accumulated over years and years of service for a large payout or taken monthly......you get a return ticket once a year worth about a months salary.....38 days paid holidays taken at company appropriate times. Married people get slightly better deals........families brought to the camps get medical and education free.......good way to save money for families......but camps are full and accommodation is an issue currently. |
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ultraman111
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| contractors cannot use aramco buses or facilities like gyms.......although often the gyms staff dont check......but officially they aint allowed......many contractors live in bahrain.......and commute. Contractor experiences are varied.......2-4 years is the norm for western expat contractors. |
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weigookin74
Joined: 30 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I can assure you, Nomad Soul, that the 20K-salary (and above) jobs do indeed exist for teachers with regular ol' uni backgrounds and no specialized quals. My colleagues "just" have standard prep-year quals (MA, certs, uni experience) and are asked to teach mostly ESP, which involves using texts such as Tech Talk and others. Since I have these quals as well, I myself interviewed for one of these positions |
When I lived in Korea my friends and I were making 2-3 times what most teachers made. When people became aware of it they almost always said it wasn't possible or that we were full of shit...
I respect people with more Saudi experience than me, and trust them when they tell me what average salaries are. I don't, however, trust them when they tell me that I (personally) can't do better than average.
Everywhere I go I have defied the averages, and would put money down that I will do it again if I move to Saudi.
One thing that always seems to stack the deck in my favor is that I take my time about things...and never look for jobs when I need them. I always look when I have a good deal already, and then only upgrade when it suits me.
It may not work this time, but then I won't move on (if not forced to through circumstance). I don't understand why this type of thinking gets under people's skin.
I think I went about asking things in a nice way, and just said, "If I can't make this, it's not worth it for me at this time..."
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How was the jump from Korea to Saudi Arabia? I wonder how it is there, even though this is a very general question.
I have several eyars experience teaching public schools in SK, but would have to go home and get a tesol or celta. (Nothing more than a 4 year business degree I'm afraid.) I'm guessing I'm near the bottom of the totem pole in the eyes of Saudi employers? I've read ESL teachers should expect $3000 a month with free lodging? But, is there a way to check either good employers or reputable recruiters? I really know next to nothing about Saudi. (But, do know Korea is beginning a long slide downward and want to leave otehr options open down the line.) |
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weigookin74
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, as a side note, is it easy to send money home each month from there? |
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scot47
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| Remitting money is easy - until you fall into the black hole experienced by ghost - see his posts here on his blocked bank account. |
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MixtecaMike
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Location: Guatebad
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Remitting money is easy - until you fall into the black hole experienced by ghost - see his posts here on his blocked bank account. |
Better to say "unless", as most of us al-hamdu lillah manage to avoid being forcibly detained during our time outside the kingdom. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| A delay in returning when out on vacation can happen to anyone. Medical reasons, family emergency etc. |
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